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Old 05-27-2017, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Yes indeed Grumble. Getting excited about airframes that pay way lower than the ones we previously ordered is an outstanding idea. Why on earth we didn't PG, (Pre-Grumble), establish that anything over 76 seats will pay SNB is beyond me.



Don't sell yourself out so cheaply Grumble. You're worth way more than what you've eluded to on here and it effects more than just Bus/Gup F/O's down the road.
You're totally right, f those pay rates... let's NOT take the airframes because the pay is subDAL. We can totally have the scope fight instead while we continue to trail DAL. You're so progressive...

If ONLY making another $40/hour means bringing RJ flying back to mainline... I'll "take that one for the team" and negotiate DAL pay later. Negotiating the pay first is what got us this whole mess to begin with... but no really the old ways have worked so well, WTF was I thinking?

How do you like being a 757 captain at Guppy rates? Hypocrite.
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Old 05-27-2017, 07:03 PM
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Sounds great and that's what I plan to do. So until we sign the new contract we should not fly the CS100? Or even want it? That's the part that doesn't make sense to a few of us. I say bring em on then we can fix the rates.
Agree completely but still don't understand the few who are practically dancing in the streets when we cancel an order for a far better paying airframe.
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Old 05-27-2017, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
You're totally right, f those pay rates... let's NOT take the airframes because the pay is subDAL. We can totally have the scope fight instead while we continue to trail DAL. You're so progressive...

If ONLY making another $40/hour means bringing RJ flying back to mainline... I'll "take that one for the team" and negotiate DAL pay later. Negotiating the pay first is what got us this whole mess to begin with... but no really the old ways have worked so well, WTF was I thinking?

How do you like being a 757 captain at Guppy rates? Hypocrite.
Not at all what I'm saying but your bizarre jubilation when Kirby cancelled the much higher paying 737-700 order and glee at making roughly $60 an hour less on a comparably sized airframe struck me as strange.

Yes bring them on but we damn well better get those rates straightened out ASAP.

I completely agree with you on the 757 vs the 737 rates, completely unacceptable as the 757 should pay more.
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Old 05-27-2017, 08:18 PM
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Bringing back The flying from the Regionals is our most important issue in my opinion. And I think Reserve Rules, sick accumulation, LTD limits, and min day are pretty important. But all are secondary right now to Not only Scope choke but regaining flying. If Scotty wants more RJs, then he can beam up some more SNBs. I will vote accordingly.
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Old 05-27-2017, 08:50 PM
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Getting a SNB is a win, but getting better rates on them is a must!

Perhaps the NC is a little to focused on those at the top at the expense of others. Those CS100 rates should have been looked at with more scrutiny.
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Old 05-29-2017, 06:23 AM
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What is a realistic timeframe for 737 training upon closing of the vacancy? The announcement says as early as Jun 2017, but I do not see how that is even possible. I don't want to start training until fall, but want to bid the 737.
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Old 05-29-2017, 07:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 757Driver
Not at all what I'm saying but your bizarre jubilation when Kirby cancelled the much higher paying 737-700 order and glee at making roughly $60 an hour less on a comparably sized airframe struck me as strange.

Yes bring them on but we damn well better get those rates straightened out ASAP.

I completely agree with you on the 757 vs the 737 rates, completely unacceptable as the 757 should pay more.
Agree on getting the rates up, but not at the cost of a near term opportunity to recapture RJ flying IMO. Get the planes on property, but yes get us up to DAL rates.

It wasn't jubilation, but I was skeptical when the order was announced. Not the right airplane for the job (taking RJ flying back) and an airframe that will only continue to fall behind the competition.
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Old 05-29-2017, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by VB Hornet
What is a realistic timeframe for 737 training upon closing of the vacancy? The announcement says as early as Jun 2017, but I do not see how that is even possible. I don't want to start training until fall, but want to bid the 737.
I was awarded in January and still waiting for a class date. Good luck.
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Old 05-29-2017, 10:51 AM
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With open time trips in June ranging from the 40s to 50s and the bigger bases into the 70s... are we adequately staffed?
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Old 05-29-2017, 01:08 PM
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With open time trips in June ranging from the 40s to 50s and the bigger bases into the 70s... are we adequately staffed?
IDK....but it's time to get PAID. Getting a little bored of my 30 hour hard time months. I'm running out of projects. LOL
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