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Old 04-28-2017, 10:03 PM
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ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS:
High School/GED equivalent.*
Complete the Hogan Personality Inventory (HPI) with a score that meets United standards.
Certifications:
Current FAA First-Class Medical Certificate.
Commercial Pilot Certificate.
Certificated Flight Instructor (CFI).
Minimum Flight Experience:
500 hours of total flight time.
200 hours of flight instruction experience.
200 hours of instrument experience.**
Interview:
Participants must successfully complete both an ATCA and United Airlines structured interview.
CPP Graduation Requirements – Participants must:
Be on active service.
Complete both 18 months of service to ATCA and achieve 1500 total flight hours.
Meet the requirements set forth in the Training Performance Record chapter of the Policies and Procedures during the time of active service.
Meet the requirements set forth in the Dependability Record chapter of the Policies and Procedures during the time of active service.
Meet the requirements set forth in the Disciplinary Record chapter of the Policies and Procedures during the time of active service.
Hold a Bachelor‘s degree from an accredited institution.***
Complete a FAA approved ATP/CTP course and possess an Airline Transport Pilot Certificate with Aircraft Multi-engine Rating.
Receive a ‚recommend‘ for hire by the United CPP administrator after completing a final performance review of the standards set forth in the manual.
Be approved by United‘s Pilot Selection Board.
* A pilot will be ineligible for hire at United until he/she has obtained a Bachelor‘s degree from an accredited institution, or otherwise has credentials established by United at its sole discretion and applicable to United new hires.
**Flight time in simulated or actual instruments conditions, or under IFR, with up to 50 hours in FFS, FTD 2/3 or FNPT II.
***If a prospective or active pilot instructor does not possess a Bachelor‘s degree from an accredited institution, ATCA will notify the United CPP administrator. The United CPP administrator will determine if the pilot has other credentials that are acceptable to United.

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Old 04-28-2017, 10:04 PM
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CFI to United....0 turbine time required.
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Old 04-28-2017, 11:40 PM
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CFI to United....0 turbine time required.
Is there a max TT limit? Like a "you can't have any prior 121 time" requirement? In theory a regional pilot could apply to this and flight instruct for 18 months and go to UA instead of upgrading and getting the 1k TPIC or whatever threshold that would otherwise warrant an interview...?
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Old 04-29-2017, 04:16 AM
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No published TT max.
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Old 04-29-2017, 08:53 AM
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The Hogan is the only thing that really matters. The rest can be worked around.
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Old 04-29-2017, 10:29 AM
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There is no need for this besides keeping instructors around. This, like every flow scheme, hurts regional pilots by enticing them to stick around at subpar carriers with the carrot of a free job, and we lose by getting the slugs who have festered at the top for years without trying to improve themselves.
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"The slugs who have festered at the top for years without trying to improve themselves."

Wow. Read much airline history? Champing at the bit for a job in the CPO? Or higher?
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"The slugs who have festered at the top for years without trying to improve themselves."

Wow. Read much airline history? Champing at the bit for a job in the CPO? Or higher?
What I mean is that these programs are used to make new pilots come to ****ty companies that they normally would not think about due to the false promise of a UAL job and rewards guys who would never get an interview if their life depended on it because they've been at [insert failing carrier] longest. I am all for seniority and no I do not want to be a chief pilot, but these policies only benefit UAL's bottom line, not regional pilots, not the instructors who work wherever this ATCA place is and definitely not the fresh FO's looking for their first job.


Go on the DAL forums and ask them about some of the Pinnacle fellas who got the NO INTERVIEW jobs handed to them.
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Originally Posted by ReadyRsv
What I mean is that these programs are used to make new pilots come to ****ty companies that they normally would not think about due to the false promise of a UAL job and rewards guys who would never get an interview if their life depended on it because they've been at [insert failing carrier] longest. I am all for seniority and no I do not want to be a chief pilot, but these policies only benefit UAL's bottom line, not regional pilots, not the instructors who work wherever this ATCA place is and definitely not the fresh FO's looking for their first job.


Go on the DAL forums and ask them about some of the Pinnacle fellas who got the NO INTERVIEW jobs handed to them.
When it comes to the XJT CPP, that is mostly true. However, they're FINALLY getting down to the guys going to class that are better than the first interviewed.

As far as the DAL SSP goes, there was a similar thing with the CPP. They're interviewing pilots that don't have their log books in order, haven't put on a suit/interviewed in like 20 years, didn't do the prep, walkednin with an entitled mentality, etc.

I believe that once they once they got through that, the SSP rate went up.

Whereas the XJT CPP got to the good guys/girls that have been applying for years, did the prep, went in giving it their best shot and not getting "accepted". And the rate hasn't gone up.

All because someone's little empire and being told who to interview, etc.
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I am currently in class at UAL ,with a bunch of xjt CCP guys , all been there for 15 years plus , all great guys with plenty of experience to go around . Took them a long time for the program work in their favor , many of which had job offers after the 2006/2008 crash which didn't get honored.

All had to go threw the same loops as everyone else . As far as this new programs concerned , well that's a whole other story
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