Search

Notices

CFI to UAL CPP

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-26-2018, 07:10 PM
  #291  
Gets Weekends Off
 
ItnStln's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,588
Default

Originally Posted by Floyd
I'm flying with a lot of people relying on the autopilot. Specifically, autopilot visuals down to 1000-500'. A situation made worse when they don't realize that the approach could be made smoother and in some cases more stable hand flown. It's truly mind boggling. Then I flew with a guy who kicks off the autopilot at 12-10k on the descent. I laughed. Brought a tear to my eye.
If I were a betting man, which I am, I’d say reliance on electronics will only get worse.
ItnStln is offline  
Old 08-26-2018, 07:22 PM
  #292  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 705
Default

Originally Posted by ItnStln
If I were a betting man, which I am, I’d say reliance on electronics will only get worse.
Up until the Captain stops offering legs. There's no guarantee that the FO gets to fly. Yes, we always swap but if I'm uncomfortable then I'm flying.
Floyd is offline  
Old 08-26-2018, 07:52 PM
  #293  
Gets Weekends Off
 
ItnStln's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2016
Posts: 1,588
Default

Originally Posted by Floyd
Up until the Captain stops offering legs. There's no guarantee that the FO gets to fly. Yes, we always swap but if I'm uncomfortable then I'm flying.
That makes sense.
ItnStln is offline  
Old 08-26-2018, 08:48 PM
  #294  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jan 2011
Position: A Nobody
Posts: 1,559
Default

Originally Posted by Lockonn
Simply took advantage of an opportunity at the right time. I'd imagine the results will dictate how long the program sticks around.

Qualifications before applying:

-5 years active duty enlisted Air Force
-1800 flight hours
-BAS Organizational Management
-Program Manager for Swiss Aviation Training (FlightSafety Academy)
-Lead Hurricane Irma evacuation of 76 aircraft (FlightSafety Academy)

Those are the main points I believe helped.
Don't feel guilty about anything, you have far more experience than many of our pilots did who are now long retired. Back in the late 60s United hired pilots with only a Private Pilot license and then paid for their Commercial and Instrument at Clinton Aviation in Denver. Some even rose to the highest positions in ALPA (think MEC Chair) and were Standards Captains (check pilots) at the Training Center.

I think what rubs many wrong is they either had to wait out the slump in the business during the past decade(s) or their friend and acquaintances aren't getting called with substantially more experience/flight time.

Here's what I see in the brief description you gave us that may have intrigued UAL's hiring staff.

Leadership and determination, you never stopped developing your skills and desires, you stepped up to fill a need and have shown leadership at one of the worlds premier flight training facilities. Now does that trump 10,000 hours in an RJ? Well you got hired, congrats!
Regularguy is offline  
Old 08-27-2018, 06:32 AM
  #295  
Banned
 
Joined APC: May 2017
Position: CA
Posts: 320
Default

Originally Posted by Floyd
I'm flying with a lot of people relying on the autopilot. Specifically, autopilot visuals down to 1000-500'. A situation made worse when they don't realize that the approach could be made smoother and in some cases more stable hand flown. It's truly mind boggling. Then I flew with a guy who kicks off the autopilot at 12-10k on the descent. I laughed. Brought a tear to my eye.

I’m not seeing that at all on the 737, most guys seem to hand fly the approach, curious what equipment your on?
Zenofzin is offline  
Old 08-27-2018, 07:06 AM
  #296  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Mar 2017
Posts: 705
Default

Originally Posted by Zenofzin
I’m not seeing that at all on the 737, most guys seem to hand fly the approach, curious what equipment your on?
Define approach. I see many (30-40%) who aren't kicking off AP until well after GS capture. AT is on until below 500'. They stay on AP with APP armed, join the LOC with a quick bank angle and dive down to and level off at GS intercept alt.
Floyd is offline  
Old 08-27-2018, 08:01 AM
  #297  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: May 2012
Position: Guppy Capt
Posts: 151
Default

Originally Posted by Zenofzin
I’m not seeing that at all on the 737, most guys seem to hand fly the approach, curious what equipment your on?
I'm also on the '37 and have had a very different experience. Ever since I came back to this fleet, the A/P reliance has been much higher than in the past. It used to be guys flew to low twenties on the way up and usually kicked it off in the mid to high teens. Now it's rare for an F/O to kick it off until it's fully configured with G/S capture. If there's any weather, they don't kick it off until the runway is in sight. It's night and day from when I was last on this plane in the late 2000's.
Freight Dawg is offline  
Old 08-27-2018, 08:15 AM
  #298  
Need More Callouts
 
757Driver's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Dec 2005
Position: Unbridled Enthusiasm
Posts: 2,143
Default

Originally Posted by Freight Dawg
I'm also on the '37 and have had a very different experience. Ever since I came back to this fleet, the A/P reliance has been much higher than in the past. It used to be guys flew to low twenties on the way up and usually kicked it off in the mid to high teens. Now it's rare for an F/O to kick it off until it's fully configured with G/S capture. If there's any weather, they don't kick it off until the runway is in sight. It's night and day from when I was last on this plane in the late 2000's.
There is a flip side to that. I’ve been the lucky recipient of Mr. Toads wild ride several times by F/O’s insisting on hand flying starting at 20-30k on the descent. Im sure the pax were wondering what the hell was going on up front so be careful what you wish for.

Some can pull it off while many can’t.
757Driver is offline  
Old 08-27-2018, 09:53 AM
  #299  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Oct 2015
Posts: 772
Default

Originally Posted by 757Driver
There is a flip side to that. I’ve been the lucky recipient of Mr. Toads wild ride several times by F/O’s insisting on hand flying starting at 20-30k on the descent. Im sure the pax were wondering what the hell was going on up front so be careful what you wish for.

Some can pull it off while many can’t.
Many captains I fly with think they can hand fly it from 10000, and while some can very well, I'd say the majority of the time I'm having to remind them of things on the way down, also having to remind them of what act said. And I dont think I've ever seen anyone do it as smooth as George can. In my opinion if cleared for the visual have at it, when needing to comply with altitude, and speed restrictions, why wouldn't you want the highest level of automation to help out.
Broncofan is offline  
Old 08-27-2018, 10:16 AM
  #300  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Apr 2011
Position: retired 767(dl)
Posts: 5,761
Default

And to think I got rid of my last "sigificant other" because she couldn't drive stick.
badflaps is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ReserveDog
United
46
05-23-2014 08:23 AM
Airhoss
United
210
09-04-2012 07:48 AM
TruthHurts
United
48
04-04-2012 10:07 AM
cons
Flight Schools and Training
8
03-27-2007 08:09 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices