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#51
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 303
The MEC Hotel Committee disagrees:
"Dozens of PDR's indicate overcrowded vans, resulting in late or missed transfers. The MEC Hotel Committee recommends pilots avail themselves immediately to alternate transportation and expense via Usource if UPA compliant transportation is not available."
UPA compliant = leaving no later than 30 minutes after block in, straight to the hotel.
As for Uber vs. cab vs. black car, the company provides black car service in most places. Why should I not use that as the standard for replacement service? We're highly trained, highly compensated professionals. We don't need to settle for less.
"Dozens of PDR's indicate overcrowded vans, resulting in late or missed transfers. The MEC Hotel Committee recommends pilots avail themselves immediately to alternate transportation and expense via Usource if UPA compliant transportation is not available."
UPA compliant = leaving no later than 30 minutes after block in, straight to the hotel.
As for Uber vs. cab vs. black car, the company provides black car service in most places. Why should I not use that as the standard for replacement service? We're highly trained, highly compensated professionals. We don't need to settle for less.
I have zero issue with contract enforcement in the least.
#52
Reasonable? There is a very famous story about a Capt just before the strike. The hotel transport was not available. This was JFK. He chartered a helicopter to the downtown heliport to get to the hotel.
UAL had to pay it....enforce the contract. Insist on it!
UAL had to pay it....enforce the contract. Insist on it!
#53
Expensing a $50 steak dinner because one doesn't think the chocolate truffle desert is a "full" desert but yet the rest of the meal was completely fine is not reasonable IMO. Expensing the priciest means of transpo from DEN to TK when the shuttle schedule has been published under the training tab in content locker for years is not reasonable IMO.
Our contract allows for self help, and budget shopping isn't part of the matrix. I think we'll all mature enough to understand what "reasonable" means and the reality is supply and demand (uber peak pricing and airport food prices) can be a ***** in that regard.
I never look at it as sticking it to the man, it's just the cost of doing business. I'd hope that the company would find it cheaper to enforce their transportation and meal vendor contracts - but that's not my job nor will I look the other way.
#54
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Joined APC: May 2014
Position: Tom’s Whipping boy.
Posts: 1,182
Was that the October surprise that shut everything down? I got stuck there on a turn. Found my own hotel for our crew, about 20 miles south. Two hour line for a cab - most were not operating. Bribed the lady at the cab stand to put me and F/O in front of line and expensed that and black limo return the next morning. Never heard a word. Expense paid promptly.
#55
Was that the October surprise that shut everything down? I got stuck there on a turn. Found my own hotel for our crew, about 20 miles south. Two hour line for a cab - most were not operating. Bribed the lady at the cab stand to put me and F/O in front of line and expensed that and black limo return the next morning. Never heard a word. Expense paid promptly.
Within 3 minutes we were on our way - the driver "sprung" for 2 Starbucks coffees as well.
I expensed it since the cPT was "out of cash". Sometimes you just have to take care of a fellow pilot .....
#57
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Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: 747 Captain, retired
Posts: 928
Dave, is he the same Captain who was out on sick list for several weeks and the Chief pilot DEMANDED he show up in his office to explain his absence. He showed up the next day, in an Ambulance with sirens and lights - off loaded on a gurney and wheeled in to the Chief Pilots' Office (ambulance of course was expensed to United Airlines).
#59
Dave, is he the same Captain who was out on sick list for several weeks and the Chief pilot DEMANDED he show up in his office to explain his absence. He showed up the next day, in an Ambulance with sirens and lights - off loaded on a gurney and wheeled in to the Chief Pilots' Office (ambulance of course was expensed to United Airlines).
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