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03-16-2017, 10:20 PM

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Probe

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Lowest common denominator.

My mother calls me the same thing.

03-16-2017, 10:21 PM

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My mother calls me the same thing.

Maybe you're part of the problem.

03-17-2017, 04:03 AM

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Probe

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Maybe you're part of the problem.

Have you two been talking again?

03-17-2017, 05:41 AM

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For what it's worth, the 800 has higher approach speeds and longer landing distances than the 900ER. I'm hoping the training for the MAX is a two week conference about tailstrikes, which don't seem to be as big a threat as purported.

The straight 900....well, bless its heart.

03-17-2017, 05:50 AM

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Worried about tailstrikes? The MAX extended the nosegear strut to gain ground clearance for the engine nacelles. The allowable pitch window for landing just got a lot narrower.

I predict an extra skid plate on the nose for all the collapsed nose gear struts from landing nose wheel first.

I don't think they had to lengthen the nose gear. They got around clearance for the (much) bigger LEAP engines by redesigning the pylons to raise them. I suppose they could have redesigned the intakes to give them the flat tire appearance of the 3/500s as well.

03-17-2017, 05:56 AM

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I have been thinking that the max additive for an 800 should be 10 knots. You are already going 10 knots to fast to start with just too keep the pitch angle low. The extra speed ends up being the biggest threat on the approach.

Makes sense to me as well. Same thinking on the flaps 5 GA. Why add even more to an already artificially inflated speed? Why is 10 KIAS the max additive for Vref ice Flaps 15 and not on a Flaps 5 GA?