Rumor - Another top executive from AA to UAL?
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#22
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Completely agree. We operated CDG from IAH for years. I believe the change to the Star Alliance for Continental, along with the retirement of the 767-200 set in motion the cutting of the route several years ago. Wish we still flew it. Can't tell you how many people have asked me why they have to connect to Paris from IAH on UA. Had to go through LHR myself last time my wife and I flew over (took the Eurostar from London).
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The people in IAH and Texas are awesome. Some of the nicest Americans there anywhere. But, cattle ranchers and oil men don't give 2 &%$ about drinking a Latte in a rainy outdoor cafe eating stinky cheese. Conversely, cheese eating surrender monkeys don't go on holiday to visit cattle ranches and refineries.
I always wanted to live in PNS and commute. There are so many ex Navy and USMC guys living there it has always been a nightmare commute. I would love to expand there and move back.
But, sorry, no IAH CDG. Ain't gonna happen unless they find a huge shale deposit under the Champs de Elise. I am pretty sure I spelled that wrong.
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lUAL has flown SFO CDG for a really long time. I flew it dozens of times in 2000-2001 on the triple. If CAL flew it out of IAH it is because they only had 2 hubs.
The people in IAH and Texas are awesome. Some of the nicest Americans there anywhere. But, cattle ranchers and oil men don't give 2 &%$ about drinking a Latte in a rainy outdoor cafe eating stinky cheese. Conversely, cheese eating surrender monkeys don't go on holiday to visit cattle ranches and refineries.
I always wanted to live in PNS and commute. There are so many ex Navy and USMC guys living there it has always been a nightmare commute. I would love to expand there and move back.
But, sorry, no IAH CDG. Ain't gonna happen unless they find a huge shale deposit under the Champs de Elise. I am pretty sure I spelled that wrong.
The people in IAH and Texas are awesome. Some of the nicest Americans there anywhere. But, cattle ranchers and oil men don't give 2 &%$ about drinking a Latte in a rainy outdoor cafe eating stinky cheese. Conversely, cheese eating surrender monkeys don't go on holiday to visit cattle ranches and refineries.
I always wanted to live in PNS and commute. There are so many ex Navy and USMC guys living there it has always been a nightmare commute. I would love to expand there and move back.
But, sorry, no IAH CDG. Ain't gonna happen unless they find a huge shale deposit under the Champs de Elise. I am pretty sure I spelled that wrong.
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The issue isn't whether UAL can make money flying from IAH to CDG, it's how can they maximize revenue across the whole hub and spoke system. IAH customers would love to have a choice of non-stopped to CDG but according to our market and route planners not eonough to make it worth committing an airplane to it. DEN has had the same problem with Europe for decades. It took an act of God, almost, to get NRT.
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The issue isn't whether UAL can make money flying from IAH to CDG, it's how can they maximize revenue across the whole hub and spoke system. IAH customers would love to have a choice of non-stopped to CDG but according to our market and route planners not eonough to make it worth committing an airplane to it. DEN has had the same problem with Europe for decades. It took an act of God, almost, to get NRT.
I don't think IAH-LHR makes much sense, but heck we do it 3 times a day. Paris could likely be done 2x daily out of IAH without a problem. I remember the Jeff Smizek (wonder where he's at now) temper tantrum when SWA opened their Hobby International hub. That was interesting.
I hear it allot from local Petro-chemical engineers that they would like to get to Paris allot easier because it eases their connection problems to other places in Europe.
Travel agents tell me that London, Paris, and Dubai are the 3 biggest connection and transfer points globally.
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I don't think it's being looked at very deeply. We have so much feed from latin, central, and south America, and in just regional feed to IAH that the IAH-CDG flight makes allot of sense. Those customers have to fly an extra leg, sometimes half a day to connect elsewhere. CDG is so central to European traffic and as a gate-way to Europe and the rest of the world it makes perfect sense to connect a beta-gamma city to a world gateway city such as Paris.
I don't think IAH-LHR makes much sense, but heck we do it 3 times a day. Paris could likely be done 2x daily out of IAH without a problem. I remember the Jeff Smizek (wonder where he's at now) temper tantrum when SWA opened their Hobby International hub. That was interesting.
I hear it allot from local Petro-chemical engineers that they would like to get to Paris allot easier because it eases their connection problems to other places in Europe.
Travel agents tell me that London, Paris, and Dubai are the 3 biggest connection and transfer points globally.
I don't think IAH-LHR makes much sense, but heck we do it 3 times a day. Paris could likely be done 2x daily out of IAH without a problem. I remember the Jeff Smizek (wonder where he's at now) temper tantrum when SWA opened their Hobby International hub. That was interesting.
I hear it allot from local Petro-chemical engineers that they would like to get to Paris allot easier because it eases their connection problems to other places in Europe.
Travel agents tell me that London, Paris, and Dubai are the 3 biggest connection and transfer points globally.
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