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Old 07-13-2022, 07:30 PM
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MY WORK IS DONE!!!

My hope is that now the pilots wake up and realize we can get back most that was lost during bankruptcy including retirement. The laws have changed since then dramatically prote ting the assets from bankruptcy. Don't be fooled again that this is not attainable, IT IS !

NOW IS THE TIME LIKE NEVER BEFORE TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

DONT SELL YOURSELVES SHORT
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Old 07-13-2022, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Vernon Demerest
Exactly. And some so called “friends of mine” who would tell me that they were looking forward to a base here or there when XYZ airline folded and “we take their gates”. Hard to forget some of this stuff and all the while happily working with very little work rules in order to “give ole Herb an advantage” so you could move in and take advantage of a strong legacy contract’s demise. And now to demand one of those very legacy’s pilots to raise the bar a certain height so you can improve your contract? Sorry. It isn’t personal to you but it is hard to get that taste out of my mouth. Thanks for your words.
Agreed. That's not cool at all. I get it. If I were in your shoes, I'm sure I'd feel similarly. I personally want us all as a profession to do better, and to recover all that has been lost - and then some.
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Old 07-13-2022, 07:38 PM
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NO. Fruit from a poison tree. Everything in the TA is a weakened version of our current contract. The starting point must be our contract, not this TA. And furthermore I want the current NC and MEC gone. Nothing they've touched belongs in a future contract.
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Old 07-13-2022, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by fadec
NO. Fruit from a poison tree. Everything in the TA is a weakened version of our current contract. The starting point must be our contract, not this TA. And furthermore I want the current NC and MEC gone. Nothing they've touched belongs in a future contract.
But isn't this the same group that got you guys the Pandemic contract? Weren't all y'all jobs saved?
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Old 07-13-2022, 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by fadec
NO. Fruit from a poison tree. Everything in the TA is a weakened version of our current contract. The starting point must be our contract, not this TA. And furthermore I want the current NC and MEC gone. Nothing they've touched belongs in a future contract.
The TA’s starting point is actually our current CBA…
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Old 07-14-2022, 04:46 AM
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This time I want Aviator Sunglasses, a belt phone clip and a pair of New Ballance 608's...or I'm Hell No!
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Old 07-14-2022, 05:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BoJet
THE SYSTEM WORKS!
Cannot wait to express my 2 cents in the polling!!!
Sorry, but polling is pre-arranged to give them the answers that they already want. Your answers to polling will just give them fodder for pre-ordained conclusions.
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Old 07-14-2022, 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by SeamusTheHound
Sorry, but polling is pre-arranged to give them the answers that they already want. Your answers to polling will just give them fodder for pre-ordained conclusions.
Possibly. But if we have **** work rules, a 40% increase in pay makes it tolerable.
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Old 07-14-2022, 06:13 AM
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Possibly. But if we have **** work rules, a 40% increase in pay makes it tolerable.
Not for me it doesn’t. QOL is much more important for me.
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Old 07-14-2022, 06:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Ace66
Are they allowed to "peak" at the results before it closes?

Wouldn't it have been a better strategy to let the vote fail in two days?
Better to send a message to the company? Sure.

Better job security for the union guys? You be the judge.
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