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Old 05-05-2015, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by KyleMyers
Empty threats? I'm not threatening anything or anyone. I have simply been offered my old job back at full seniority. So if TSA won't pay me what they said they would, then it only makes financial sense for me to go back. It's quite simple.
Referring to people who are threatening to quit in hopes that the place will collapse behind them, which is ridiculous. It's real simple: Trans States will staff all the planes it can. What it can't staff will probably go directly back to Xjet. This regional model will not sustain itself for too much longer. I kind of hope United screws themselves. They contract out half their flying to regional jets when they should be flying it themselves.
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Old 05-05-2015, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tothebigblue
zero sympathy for anyone here who drank the kool aid and jumped ship from their other regional. whine and complain you knew what you were getting yourselves into. you made your bed....

Haha guys like you are so funny. You read these posts and were like "I'm gonna tell these guys they are getting what they deserve" because some how whatever you are doing is a much more noble and correct path. You have never tried to better your career position because you stand for some cause right? you would never take any risks because you always think of the majority and not yourself. Pilots wishing others Mis-fortune. It's like being negative for the sake of being negative. Nobody wants your sympathy dude.
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Old 05-05-2015, 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by knobcrk
Typical. The average time a street captain type hire lasts at a regional is 6 to 12 months. It's just amazing how you guys don't see the big picture. Not to mention if you guys do become captains you guys will be at the bottom for a while. If you're already *****ing now, you should quit because it won't get better for a few years.
Ahhh; the big picture argument. Don't forget the 'you'll all upgrade by summer' point of view. Both of them and $2 gets ya a coffee. Until that is in writing I'll defer to my previous experience in this industry and proceed with caution. I was told one thing... I made a decision, I'm experiencing another. Whoever thinks that's par for the course is part of the problem. We are seeking some answers to our questions and that is all. Some of us arent planning to wait a whole lot longer.
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Old 05-05-2015, 03:30 PM
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Originally Posted by IlliniPilot99
That's one of the issues but is more of a side point.

-not paying us when we sit CA reserve (and no one in payroll has a clue)

-not being able to bid an CA open time (which is ridiculous because it's based on seniority so we aren't taking it from any other senior CA)(this just happened yesterday and were still trying to find out why, we were told that the Union had no idea bout)
-when we DH or do a training event as a CA we are payed at a blended rate instead of CA rate.

-Using junior CQFO's as CA when the FO is a senior CQFO (this is happening a lot and scheduling is tone deaf to it. (this is probably the most common)

-We were told that when sitting AR1/2 (airport reserve) that we are at a blended rate and when we get used as CA it changes to CA rates for the whole period...that hasn't happened.

and the MOU is suppose to dispel and clarify all of this...
Hate this for a former rah guy. Shouldn't the cqfo's see a true upgrade shortly?
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Old 05-05-2015, 03:53 PM
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Many of us warned folks of the crap company that Transtates is. All you have to do is look at it's history. Some fine pilots there but the problem is the owner and management. This is more than growing pains. Have flown with MANY former TSA'rs that said this would happen... Best of luck to those getting hosed.
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Old 05-05-2015, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by tothebigblue
zero sympathy for anyone here who drank the kool aid and jumped ship from their other regional. whine and complain you knew what you were getting yourselves into. you made your bed....
yeah I drank the Kool-aid and it's purple drank deliciousness got me.

What you guys not getting about this. We aren't ****ed that we haven't upgraded in six weeks or that we have flown right seat.

BUT that the promises of pay rules were set and are not being fulfilled. This MOU was suppose to define all of this and so when we go and fight it with Payroll, it can be more than just a He Said She said mess that creeps up the chain to the COO.


CBreezy should be upset at this but he appears to just insist that we are FO's and ignore some serious issues. He must acknowledge that these planes won't come if they don't keep us here...and if I'm not here...who's going to read you your checklist or eat your pretzel.
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Old 05-05-2015, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by IlliniPilot99
yeah I drank the Kool-aid and it's purple drank deliciousness got me.

What you guys not getting about this. We aren't ****ed that we haven't upgraded in six weeks or that we have flown right seat.

BUT that the promises of pay rules were set and are not being fulfilled. This MOU was suppose to define all of this and so when we go and fight it with Payroll, it can be more than just a He Said She said mess that creeps up the chain to the COO.


CBreezy should be upset at this but he appears to just insist that we are FO's and ignore some serious issues. He must acknowledge that these planes won't come if they don't keep us here...and if I'm not here...who's going to read you your checklist or eat your pretzel.

You're rational, forward thinking thought process isn't welcome here Sir. Good day.
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Old 05-05-2015, 04:20 PM
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This thread is hilarious!!!
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Old 05-05-2015, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by IlliniPilot99
yeah I drank the Kool-aid and it's purple drank deliciousness got me.

What you guys not getting about this. We aren't ****ed that we haven't upgraded in six weeks or that we have flown right seat.

BUT that the promises of pay rules were set and are not being fulfilled. This MOU was suppose to define all of this and so when we go and fight it with Payroll, it can be more than just a He Said She said mess that creeps up the chain to the COO.


CBreezy should be upset at this but he appears to just insist that we are FO's and ignore some serious issues. He must acknowledge that these planes won't come if they don't keep us here...and if I'm not here...who's going to read you your checklist or eat your pretzel.
FINALLY!! What class were you in? Yeah, none of us are ****ed that we haven't (truly) upgraded. None of us are ****ed about sitting reserve forever. This is EXACTLY WHAT WE SIGNED UP FOR. But what we signed up for regarding our pay and what the company has since backpedalded on since we've been done with training is the issue that we are upset over. Anyone who tries and defends the company over that needs to seriously question their life perspectives.
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Old 05-05-2015, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Coneydog
Weren't you on another thread just talking about jumping ship from your regional?
nope just said it was getting harder to stay where i am. And even if i would jump regional, i would NOT go to TSA to fly a 145 thats being parked in the coming years, but hey good luck to ya'll and trying to get paid and what not. You still have the CQFO qualification so kudos........
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