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Old 05-05-2015, 12:50 PM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
Why, What is happening with the cqfo program? Are the first classes of cqfo's getting screwed and forced to fly as fo's because they lowered the upgrade mins?
What's wrong with flying as a FO? The last page they were talking about not being able to pick up captain opentime
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Originally Posted by AZ wildcat
A little info. as to the progress of the MOU negotiations would go a long way. I mean there's a few deal breaker issues in there for me and its coming up on my deadline to return to my former job.... Mostly flying right seat to CQFOs that are junior to me! Surely ALPA ain't letting that fly.
You could call your union rep and ask. That's way more productive than complaining online. Also, senior CQFO should be in the left seat. You can call scheduling and correct it.
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Originally Posted by Riverside
What's wrong with flying as a FO? The last page they were talking about not being able to pick up captain opentime
Why should a FO be allowed to pick up Captain open time?
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Old 05-05-2015, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by KyleMyers
Yeah I've been hearing much of the same. Expect to start seeing the majority of CQFO's that were hired over the last few months to be giving their notice soon.
Please leave already.
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Old 05-05-2015, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
Why, What is happening with the cqfo program? Are the first classes of cqfo's getting screwed and forced to fly as fo's because they lowered the upgrade mins?
That's one of the issues but is more of a side point.

-not paying us when we sit CA reserve (and no one in payroll has a clue)

-not being able to bid an CA open time (which is ridiculous because it's based on seniority so we aren't taking it from any other senior CA)(this just happened yesterday and were still trying to find out why, we were told that the Union had no idea bout)
-when we DH or do a training event as a CA we are payed at a blended rate instead of CA rate.

-Using junior CQFO's as CA when the FO is a senior CQFO (this is happening a lot and scheduling is tone deaf to it. (this is probably the most common)

-We were told that when sitting AR1/2 (airport reserve) that we are at a blended rate and when we get used as CA it changes to CA rates for the whole period...that hasn't happened.

and the MOU is suppose to dispel and clarify all of this...
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Old 05-05-2015, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
You could call your union rep and ask. That's way more productive than complaining online. Also, senior CQFO should be in the left seat. You can call scheduling and correct it.
Damn right senior cqfo should be in the left seat. And scheduling nor my CP corrected. Hence my btching. Thanks for your input though. Usefull as always.
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Old 05-05-2015, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Why should a FO be allowed to pick up Captain open time?
Do you prefer First Officer Qualified Captain...how about when we fly together you can call me First Officer but I'll still call for the checklist.

either way what they are doing and what we were told before coming here is not lining up.
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Old 05-05-2015, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by IlliniPilot99
That's one of the issues but is more of a side point.

-not paying us when we sit CA reserve (and no one in payroll has a clue)

-not being able to bid an CA open time (which is ridiculous because it's based on seniority so we aren't taking it from any other senior CA)(this just happened yesterday and were still trying to find out why, we were told that the Union had no idea bout)
-when we DH or do a training event as a CA we are payed at a blended rate instead of CA rate.

-Using junior CQFO's as CA when the FO is a senior CQFO (this is happening a lot and scheduling is tone deaf to it. (this is probably the most common)

-We were told that when sitting AR1/2 (airport reserve) that we are at a blended rate and when we get used as CA it changes to CA rates for the whole period...that hasn't happened.

and the MOU is suppose to dispel and clarify all of this...
Ahh the 'ol bait and switch. Not surprising, hope it works out for y'all
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Originally Posted by IlliniPilot99
Do you prefer First Officer Qualified Captain...how about when we fly together you can call me First Officer but I'll still call for the checklist.

either way what they are doing and what we were told before coming here is not lining up.
You're a first officer. A super junior one at that. If you'd like, when you sit as an FO for me I'll call for the checklist.

The company is handling this incredibly poorly. Even CP interpreted it one way while scheduling trolls another. I don't know what a solution would be.
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Old 05-05-2015, 01:06 PM
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Ahh the 'ol bait and switch. Not surprising, hope it works out for y'all
pretty much...I guess we should of realized this standard Management tactic

good kool-aid though...
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