CBreezy

THere is no irony in this development. Until recently, it was one of the worst contracts in the regionals. So, you're right, now they have $20k in bonuses, up to 80k, right? I have to applaud to that development. Tell me, what's going to happen in 4 years once that bonus runs out and the FO that was just hired is still in the right seat for another 2 years?

Also, the TSA pay scale is higher than the Endeavor payscale. There is NO way an Endeavor FO is making more than a TSA Captain. $20k equates to approximately $20/hour. So, the maxed out $39/hour on the 900 turns into $59/hour. So, a new hire FO will make more than a new hire FO at TSA until year three pay, when the TSA FO will be making more until that person retires or moves on to a higher paying job.

TeamRamRod

Snickers

LOL wut?

How recently are we talkin? Because the PNCL 2011 JCBA blows TSA's out of the water. Even their current CBA with a 20k annual bonus is equal or more probably higher given the fact they are offering 200% for their open time. Yea, there's a lot more to a contract that just section 3, but you keep paying attention to that if it makes you feel better.

As for what happens in 4 years, what happens if TSA shuts down and all those FOs upgrade WITH that bonus if it all happens as Delta's management predicts? We can sit here and throw out 'what ifs' all night long but we both know 4 years in this industry is a crap shoot. How long before you "escaped" your last carrier? Half that time?

My point still stands, this thread becomes less objective and more hilarious with each post from you cheerleaders.

Snickers

You're an idiot. And you wonder why people question your credibility....

MavAv8r

Says the Bendover cheerleader… DOKAY Guy!

TeamRamRod

You say that like I'm supposed to care....

CBreezy

You dont care about the respect of an anonymous pilot posting on an obscure message board? Weird.

tom11011

Well at least now we know the proper weight to lend to anything he has to say.

CBreezy

If you put any appreciable weight to anything anyone says on an anonymous message board, you might be living life the wrong way.

FlyingKat

The PCL 2011 contract was a leap over what they had before, and was gutted in concessions which was sad given how hard they had fought for that contract. TSA has offered 200% in the past, and will likely be offering it soon given the amount of open time we have. However the 150% for pickups is comparable to the PCL contract. Some of the areas where TSA was deficient compared to the PCL contract have been addressed by recent LOIs, mainly the areas involving DFI reporting requirements, and others will be corrected in the new contract. Main differences are reserve rules and once again it should be addresed in our new contract. Having worked with both contracts the PCL one is marginally better, but to say it blows TSA out of the water is nonsense.

As a former PCL employee with lots of friends still there, I would be more worried about PCL/Endeavor being around in four years than TSA. Once Delta gets its rate resets and doesn't need Endeavor (or Gojet) anymore then I would be more worried about the future of PCL. See what Delta management did with Express I, Mesaba, Comair, Pinnacle and Freedom when they were no longer needed. Plus most Delta people you talk to think that the majority of their regional flying will return to mainline with 717 type airplanes. Kinda interesting your bonus is for only two years which is how long it will take Mother Delta to get all the 717s online.

Leases are dirt cheap on 50 seaters for a while, and TSA will be in good shape till the MRJ gets worked out one way or the other. Holdings is not going to let qualified pilots just walk away in the present staffing environment which is expected to get worse not better so TSA pilots will be fine no matter what happens. Many here do not expect the present organizational structure (3 certificates) to be the case with TSA Holdings five or ten years from now.