TheGoldenJet

Lol we don't recieve cancellation pay but don't feel bad we're dealing with the same crap you guys gotta deal with. It's frustrating when you have one person taking care of 900 pilots and us having to file a pay report or discrepancy for every little thing that should be automatically put on your check in the first place. But I'm with you and Breezy hopefully all this gets fixed with the new system.

KyleMyers

Are you looking at coming to work here? I had two buddies of mine from flight school that were seriously considering coming here to TSA given all the growth, etc., but once I explained to them how awful training pay is (essentially minimum wage for 3 months) and the rest of the pay issues we've had since hitting the line, and all the uncertainty that has created, they both decided to take offers at other airlines.

CBreezy

They should go to express jet where you get two $1300 checks for all of training.

MavAv8r

You are having pay issues because it is new. They are and will figure it out as people like Breezy has said. Shannon, in payroll, has also been out of the office for the past few weeks. She was supposed to be getting back in on the 23rd. I would guess your "issues" should start to get resolved. I've only had 1 problem, yes 1 problem, with getting paid correctly in my time here. It was within the past few months. Growing pains happen with growth, shocker I know.

Putting in the report sucks, but if you keep track of it, it's easy and takes little to no time and you can do it on an overnight in BFE. They are still figuring out how to streamline this CQFO thing, and the early guys are going to go through some of the pains of it. Some of the guys/gals I've spoken with have a great attitude about it and understand that with growth comes the pains. Others **** and moan and deter people from coming here, like yourself.

Amen. We are garbage though, so no matter what it's going to be Trash States. Everyone will look for a reason to trash this place and to make the current situation look like garbage. There's nothing like a ****ed off FO coming from another company, that's getting a golden shot to essentially be a street captain here, that still finds a way to **** and moan.

Hou757

Similar pay issues at XJT as well.

KyleMyers

True. But at XJT and most every other airline you get paid your 75 hr guarantee after you pass your checkride. Here it isn't paid until you finish IOE, so the time spent on training pay here is significantly longer.

I'm not deterring anyone from coming here, so far it has been and will continue to be a great opportunity, but I'm just passing along my first hand experiences to others and that is what deterred them. One guy simply just couldn't afford to be paid that little for such a long period of time. It's too bad because they are great pilots and good guys.

v1valarob

While I still think I made a good decision to come over for the CQF program, it's becoming clear that this company has no clue the kind of pain they're in for if they keep treating people like crap.

Most classes have been moved from double occupancy to single halfway through ground. My class was not. We were told to pick Houston or St Louis for sim. The draw back with Houston was that it was a Sheraton with nothing really around for food, but everyone was getting single occupancy. Apparently that's changed and now we are doubling up in a hotel room for 2 weeks.

Also the guys that have started to go through the sim portion of training and have been sent to Houston are being taught solely by FSI instructors, and no longer have a Trans States instructor sitting in. This past class had a few people bust their ride who were sent to Houston and only had FSI instructors.

I guess the good news is that most of us who came for the CQF program will be gone fairly quick. A couple of our guys went to the women in aviation while in training and have had bites from new employers.

av8rgator

Kyle I don't know where you came from but big companies suffer from the same issues. Envoy is constantly mucking up the pay and they have 2,000+ pilots on payroll. Also (at ENY) you are on 64 hours of training pay until you finish IOE. Only upside is you also get 24/7 per diem.

At least Trans States is getting people thru the program and online (on average) in less than 90 days. I'm sure things are destined to change with the way the industry is headed, but seriously you talked your buddies out of coming here because of the training pay?!?!

If you budget appropriately it's not terrible. At least the hotel has a mini-kitchen so you can cook your meals. The training department has been a little lacking, that is really my only gripe.

av8rgator

Not true. I had a friend that just finished up down there and they had a TSA instructor. You can end up with a FSI instructor though - and it can happen at EITHER location.

v1valarob

Interesting. Everyone from my class that's going to Houston has an FSI instructor.