RgrMurdock

Again you guys are just making assumptions as to how many people are in front of you. You have no idea until an updated standing bid list comes out. You also aren't reading what the bypass language says. Nobody who has bypass pay will lose it.

Coneydog

Amen brother!!

FlyingKat

I honestly think you are an idiot. The company is not going to pay upwards of $46 an hour for FOs when they can hire them for $24. We are having a lot of guys moving on to UPS, United, and American. I personally know of 6 guys leaving this month, including our MEC Chairman. Lowering the upgrade minimum has to do with the market and the need to upgrade those on property and hire more CQFOs for the left seat.

And for those uniformed people who were saying those getting bypass pay will lose it, ALPA just sent out an email confirming that once awarded bypass pay, you cannot lose it until upgrade. It is an award just like anything else.

Getting sick and tired of uniformed idiots who don't even work here pontificating on what happens at TSA even though they don't have a freaking clue.

There is going to be more work and upgrades here than we can handle this summer. If you want to come here, upgrade fast, and make a bunch of money welcome aboard.

CBreezy

The same place PSA and Mesa are finding them but in greater numbers.

flynavyj

The beauty of the CQFO program is you can use people in either seats...as more FO's are needed, that's where the CQFO's will fill...if more CA's then they sit that seat. My guess, the cost of paying an FO $43.xx / hr and having the versatility to use them as a CA if needed it more profitable than giving back the flying.

Trans States has an excellent reputation at negotiating profitable contracts, and the fact that they've lowered CQFO minimums tells me they've got room in their budget to stay in the black with this.

Another piece, the lowering of the CQFO mins now has me qualified for the position again. It'd still be a pay cut, but it's livable. I have other friends that are also considering coming back again, and I'm sure that was part of the goal...this helps attract pilots that are currently out of the industry, but who still meet the minimums. Trans States might be in my future once again...we'll see if I can convince my wife to let me play with jets again.

bjohnson09

Just because you have the minimums does not mean they will bring you on as a CQFO. Many guys that have the time, but have been out of the industry and/or not current Part 121, may not be offered a spot as a CQFO. They will be on 1st year FO pay until the upgrade comes.

flynavyj

I've talked to a few folks in the training department and hiring, and it doesn't sound like it's out of the question...but that doesn't mean it's a sure thing. Won't know till you sign up.

Each of the guys I'm talking about though are former Trans States, and former Captains on the 145. All have at least a couple thousand hours with the company, and 500 T-PIC...but we'll see.

However, I think the biggest win for TSA on this is that it suddenly makes many more FO's competitive for a CQFO position...so I imagine these spots will become a bit more competitive to get, and they're now able to entice a whole group of folks who previously weren't qualified to make the jump.

airspeed1974

She told me they need 1000 PIC 121 from a U.S. Carrier. So I guess he got it from a U.S. airline?

CBreezy

You need 1000 SIC.

Celeste

Does anyone have any updates on when DEN is officially opening, and how big of a base it will be?