BrewCity

Your lateral move didn't work out seamlessly and now you're upset?

Riverside

At least he will be senior to them. So I'm not seeing the problem.

DenverPilot8

Of course you make the best decisions you can with the information that you are given. That's all that really anyone can do right? Yeah if this was the case I wouldn't be happy about it of course. I'll be senior to new hires but my upgrade prospect is pretty un clear now. This should qualify current FOs for upgrade much sooner flight time wise and I will be behind them of course (as I should be). But in the meantime while I wait for that I'll be making first year FO pay while pilots junior to me make more. In the case of current CQFOs making more money than current FOs it was a flight time issue. In this case it is not.
You're comment was obviously alluding to something along the lines of whining or something. I certainly don't read these forums for sunshine but sometimes I don't understand people's inharent negativity. You took the time to respond. Like I said. Nothing is guaranteed. But from the prospective of the people that came here for specific reasons this doesn't seem to be a good thing. Time will tell

Caveman

No, I likely won't be one, as this appears to be a situation better suited for others. The reason I asked for responses from a CPT, was that would make for the type of qualified feedback I was seeking. A CPT would've been on the property for a while, had been through several iterations of the recurrent training requirements, had more continuity in seeing the company culture change/evolve, and have more insights into TSA as a company.

BrewCity

You are absolutely whining because you wilfully accepted a position at first year pay and and now people who are junior to you with less flight time are going to be making more money than you are. Yes, TSA moved the goalposts on you, but you're naïve if you didn't see that as a possibility

propspin

It sounds like you have not had your recurrent yet as an FO? If that is the case I would assume they will turn you into a CQFO when you reach your recurrent. That saves the company money for an extra upgrade training event and benefits you with a higher payrate as soon as you make the switch. Have they talked about that?

Blanco

They moved the goalposts on everybody at TSA. The majority of our captains who busted their a$$ to get to the left seat just saw their efforts undermined by the company. And the FO's on the upgrade list just got the rug pulled out from them pushing upgrade back by several months if not a full year or more. And depending on how the company handles it, (my guess is not with much credibility) bypass pay will be pulled for those who were promised it.

Bellanca

My gusss is FOs that came here maybe 1.5 years ago with 1500-2000TT had their 3000 to upgrade, when guys that were hired 3 years ago with 300-500 hours were still time building and ineligible for upgrade as of two days ago, and are now suddenly eligible to upgrade now. So now that FO that was slated for upgrade class in the next month or two and getting bypass pay, is now going to upgrade a year from now and is back to normal FO pay rates. Meanwhile new hire CQFOs with lowef time are making twice as much ,money.

CBreezy

A year from now? Really? How did you do that math? This has been out for one day and not an official notification. Let's all take a deep breath and see what happens. I find it hard to believe this announcement will push upgrades a year into the future.

Also, as of this announcement, they can't take away bypass pay. If you had your bid in and a CQFO was hired into a spot you could have upgraded, you should still get bypass pay until you upgrade as your upgrade was bypassed.

Riverside

Amen to that sir.