Trans States CQFO
02-19-2015, 05:05 PM
#141
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
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It's a punch to guys that left their previous airlines based on a given set of information and prior to even hitting the line have that information vastly changed.
It's not a wrecking ball, just a dik punch. Would we still have done it with this information? I for one can say yes based on my personal circumstances but others maybe not. Just that all of the sudden instead of being a great move it becomes pretty ok.
It's not a wrecking ball, just a dik punch. Would we still have done it with this information? I for one can say yes based on my personal circumstances but others maybe not. Just that all of the sudden instead of being a great move it becomes pretty ok.
02-19-2015, 05:12 PM
#142
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: Left-out 145
Posts: 136
That being said. I just want from around 20 something on the upgrade list to probably 120 something if I'm lucky. That's what's changed. That's what feels like a punch.
No small part of a lot of our decisions was the fact that only 30 pilots on property had the upgrade mins. Now that's changed vastly. Is it unfair? Is it dirty? Is it bad business? I'm not saying any of that. Just said it was a punch.
02-19-2015, 05:22 PM
#143
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Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 309
I sent an email to Laura (I think that's her name) saying I was interested as maybe I would need to do this before going to a major. I told her my current quals with well above what they are looking for. But it seems that since I'm overseas that I can't apply because the 121 time needs to be with a U.S. Carrier. Oh well....
02-19-2015, 05:39 PM
#144
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Joined APC: Oct 2006
Posts: 650
Thanks Case. I'm an Army guy, so no pointy stuff for us unless its hanging off a missle rack 
4700 TT (all mil)
3100 ME Turbine Airplane
1600 ME Turbine Airplane PIC
1600 ME Turbine Helo
1000 ME Turbine Helo PIC
1000 Turbofan
ATP, the types in my profile, and the rest of it (passport, class 1 med, etc), but like many other folks (with higher quality experience), my phone isn't ringing off the hook despite apps in everywhere. Seriously considering applying for a regional position to add 121 to the resume.
It looks like the math says 6-7 months until a mil guy would accrue his 500+500 121 time... Just a helluva gamble if the music was to stop sooner vs later at year 1 FO pay.
If there are some TSA Captains reading this thread, I'd appreciate a PM to ask some more questions.
4700 TT (all mil)
3100 ME Turbine Airplane
1600 ME Turbine Airplane PIC
1600 ME Turbine Helo
1000 ME Turbine Helo PIC
1000 Turbofan
ATP, the types in my profile, and the rest of it (passport, class 1 med, etc), but like many other folks (with higher quality experience), my phone isn't ringing off the hook despite apps in everywhere. Seriously considering applying for a regional position to add 121 to the resume.
It looks like the math says 6-7 months until a mil guy would accrue his 500+500 121 time... Just a helluva gamble if the music was to stop sooner vs later at year 1 FO pay.
If there are some TSA Captains reading this thread, I'd appreciate a PM to ask some more questions.
02-19-2015, 05:41 PM
#145
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Joined APC: Nov 2014
Posts: 558
I am sure that everyone will give me crap but look at Sun Air. I am sure they suck as bad or worse than every other regional but they are hiring straight to the left seat and the starting pay in a piston twin is $50K +. You are flying pax, and have a right seater so the crew concept is there. If you are just looking to put the check in a block at least you can do it at a much higher pay rate from day one.
02-19-2015, 05:43 PM
#146
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Posts: 828
If they were getting what they needed then they would not have to lower minimums. I've talked to several FO"s that considered the offer but later declined. I figured you would get a large amount up front but now it's going to become much tougher.
02-19-2015, 05:54 PM
#148
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I'm not intending to get into a whole big thing with anyone about why this takes the wind out of the sails of the CQFOs on property because I dont feel like it, and I doubt anyone cares.
That being said. I just want from around 20 something on the upgrade list to probably 120 something if I'm lucky. That's what's changed. That's what feels like a punch.
No small part of a lot of our decisions was the fact that only 30 pilots on property had the upgrade mins. Now that's changed vastly. Is it unfair? Is it dirty? Is it bad business? I'm not saying any of that. Just said it was a punch.
That being said. I just want from around 20 something on the upgrade list to probably 120 something if I'm lucky. That's what's changed. That's what feels like a punch.
No small part of a lot of our decisions was the fact that only 30 pilots on property had the upgrade mins. Now that's changed vastly. Is it unfair? Is it dirty? Is it bad business? I'm not saying any of that. Just said it was a punch.
02-19-2015, 06:32 PM
#149
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Joined APC: Feb 2011
Posts: 399
I sent an email to Laura (I think that's her name) saying I was interested as maybe I would need to do this before going to a major. I told her my current quals with well above what they are looking for. But it seems that since I'm overseas that I can't apply because the 121 time needs to be with a U.S. Carrier. Oh well....
Erm ... We have a guy in class whose a CQF who was flying right seat international.
02-19-2015, 06:34 PM
#150
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Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 828
I'm not intending to get into a whole big thing with anyone about why this takes the wind out of the sails of the CQFOs on property because I dont feel like it, and I doubt anyone cares.
That being said. I just want from around 20 something on the upgrade list to probably 120 something if I'm lucky. That's what's changed. That's what feels like a punch.
No small part of a lot of our decisions was the fact that only 30 pilots on property had the upgrade mins. Now that's changed vastly. Is it unfair? Is it dirty? Is it bad business? I'm not saying any of that. Just said it was a punch.
That being said. I just want from around 20 something on the upgrade list to probably 120 something if I'm lucky. That's what's changed. That's what feels like a punch.
No small part of a lot of our decisions was the fact that only 30 pilots on property had the upgrade mins. Now that's changed vastly. Is it unfair? Is it dirty? Is it bad business? I'm not saying any of that. Just said it was a punch.
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