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08-05-2015, 08:16 AM
#8981
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Yes it is. The aircraft can be recalled from TSA, XJT, and even PDT. I think the PDT clause was just a contingency plan in case they couldn't get the program set up though.
The length of contract numbers I heard were two years, five years, and zero years, meaning the aircraft could be recalled immediately. I forget who got what contract though.
The length of contract numbers I heard were two years, five years, and zero years, meaning the aircraft could be recalled immediately. I forget who got what contract though.
08-05-2015, 08:24 AM
#8982
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XJT deal for the -145s is 2 years, TSA is 4 years, and PDT is considerably longer. Maybe cujo can get that number.
That being said, I'd highly doubt the -145s will come back to envoy anytime soon, unless some drastically changes. If anything, I can see them going to Piedmont after the contract is up.
08-05-2015, 09:13 AM
#8983
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Let's see the data that supports that, please.
XJT deal for the -145s is 2 years, TSA is 4 years, and PDT is considerably longer. Maybe cujo can get that number.
That being said, I'd highly doubt the -145s will come back to envoy anytime soon, unless some drastically changes. If anything, I can see them going to Piedmont after the contract is up.
XJT deal for the -145s is 2 years, TSA is 4 years, and PDT is considerably longer. Maybe cujo can get that number.
That being said, I'd highly doubt the -145s will come back to envoy anytime soon, unless some drastically changes. If anything, I can see them going to Piedmont after the contract is up.
The point is that the plan may be to recall the aircraft and then advertise "growth" at ENY/PDT along with a flow. Coupled with the fleet reductions at TSA/XJT and the repercussions that go with that it may just administer the coup de grace to a couple of the enemies feeders.
Just a possible scenario.
08-05-2015, 09:31 AM
#8984
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I could see them going to PDT if they could support them.
The point is that the plan may be to recall the aircraft and then advertise "growth" at ENY/PDT along with a flow. Coupled with the fleet reductions at TSA/XJT and the repercussions that go with that it may just administer the coup de grace to a couple of the enemies feeders.
Just a possible scenario.
The point is that the plan may be to recall the aircraft and then advertise "growth" at ENY/PDT along with a flow. Coupled with the fleet reductions at TSA/XJT and the repercussions that go with that it may just administer the coup de grace to a couple of the enemies feeders.
Just a possible scenario.
08-05-2015, 10:48 AM
#8985
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What scares me about this new AA flying is the very poor crew utilization. Our performance numbers directly reflect this and it's miserable for the crews on reserve. I hope the SOC gets a handle on this. I certainly don't think it's indicative of our nature, but it sucks none the less. We desperately need an AA base other than STL.
08-05-2015, 10:53 AM
#8986
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What scares me about this new AA flying is the very poor crew utilization. Our performance numbers directly reflect this and it's miserable for the crews on reserve. I hope the SOC gets a handle on this. I certainly don't think it's indicative of our nature, but it sucks none the less. We desperately need an AA base other than STL.
08-05-2015, 11:05 AM
#8987
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In June you would be correct but I can't imagine our July performance will be on par. Yes LGA is a detriment but I think we've got the W&B business ironed out. What I'm referring to specifically is the amount of delays caused by lack of crews being in the right place at the right time and a lack of reserve crews being in position with no dedicated base. I know a lot of crews on reserve are deadheading more than they operate. I think cancellations are low but delays are high.
08-05-2015, 11:15 AM
#8988
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In June you would be correct but I can't imagine our July performance will be on par. Yes LGA is a detriment but I think we've got the W&B business ironed out. What I'm referring to specifically is the amount of delays caused by lack of crews being in the right place at the right time and a lack of reserve crews being in position with no dedicated base. I know a lot of crews on reserve are deadheading more than they operate. I think cancellations are low but delays are high.
08-05-2015, 01:20 PM
#8990
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heard (unsubstantiated) tsa is only getting 6 of the 15 envoy e145's. how many do you folks have already?
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