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Old 05-20-2015, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
If they put the contract on ice, they'll lose PBS.

As far as the day off comment, there's no guarantee of that with line bidding either. At least with PBS I have a shot of getting that one block of days off I need whereas with line bidding I'm having to choose between line 2 and line 11 where I might not get either.
Are you guys seriously considering PBS in exchange for something? Why? Why would you want PBS?
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Old 05-20-2015, 05:13 AM
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Originally Posted by kbronc
They need more time to setup up the ERJ/MRJ whipsaw?
MRJ may be DOA.

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Old 05-20-2015, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
Are you guys seriously considering PBS in exchange for something? Why? Why would you want PBS?
I would absolutely vote yes for PBS if the pot were sweet enough. With the way scheduling is here, I feel like I would get a tiny bit of control over my schedule whereas right not I do not.
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Old 05-20-2015, 05:48 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
I would absolutely vote yes for PBS if the pot were sweet enough. With the way scheduling is here, I feel like I would get a tiny bit of control over my schedule whereas right not I do not.
Instead of PBS why not do SAP?
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Old 05-20-2015, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by tom11011
Or they will artificially lower the MTOW just as what was done with the 175's.
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Old 05-20-2015, 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by TOMM
Or they will artificially lower the MTOW just as what was done with the 175's.
Personally, whether we are talking MRJ's, ERJ's, or CRJ's, I think their days may be numbered. Mainlines don't want them, Regionals will not be able to staff them, so I don't know what that means for their status.
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Old 05-20-2015, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
Instead of PBS why not do SAP?
Because PBS is what is on the table and we are waiting on a proposed LOA anytime. SAP would be great if we can get it but that will have to wait till the next contract.
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Old 05-20-2015, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by TOMM
Or they will artificially lower the MTOW just as what was done with the 175's.
Exactly. That is what I have heard will happen with the MRJ and the new 175 with geared engines.
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Old 05-20-2015, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
I would absolutely vote yes for PBS if the pot were sweet enough. With the way scheduling is here, I feel like I would get a tiny bit of control over my schedule whereas right not I do not.
This is the best reason for PBS. As we go forward adjustments to schedules through drops/swaps will be more difficult if not impossible due to staffing levels. If you can't get the days you need in the initial bid, then you may not be able to get them. But we aren't going to give PBS away either, and my sense is without some kind of minimum day PBS may not pass.
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Old 05-20-2015, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingKat
Because PBS is what is on the table and we are waiting on a proposed LOA anytime. SAP would be great if we can get it but that will have to wait till the next contract.
SAP would be useless with PBS because PBS is designed to minimize open time.
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