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01-15-2015, 06:16 PM

#6801

bjohnson09

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Position: CE550B F/O

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Quote:

Originally Posted by CBreezy

We have been incredibly overstaffed on first officers since this summer. The priority is Captains this winter. I'm sure FO hiring will pick up when the CQFO hiring slows.

Will this hurt the traditional FO's in terms of seniority on the FO side?

01-15-2015, 06:51 PM

#6802

N6279P

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayHub

Yes there are. When we blast off out of Denver, there will be rare occasions when we will need flaps 18 takeoffs for performance.

You never need flaps 18 in DEN.

01-15-2015, 07:00 PM

#6803

CBreezy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by bjohnson09

Will this hurt the traditional FO's in terms of seniority on the FO side?

No. When they have the time, they will upgrade into a line. For hires within the last 6 months, that will most likely take another year. Midterm? It's hard to tell. A lot still in the air regarding movement out of regionals in the next two years.

As for the comment about not getting to 80, unless some catastrophe occurs that greatly impacts the whole industry happens in 2015, the planes are coming and will be on property by next spring. You can play the .001% odds of you'd like. Me? I'll take the 99%

01-15-2015, 07:06 PM

#6804

Hou757

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Funny to see some of ya'll on the Mesa board pointing out flaws with them and their contract but can't take the heat on here when we do the same to you.

01-15-2015, 07:33 PM

#6805

HuskerAv8tor

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Position: 737

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Quote:

Originally Posted by JayHub

Yes there are. When we blast off out of Denver, there will be rare occasions when we will need flaps 18 takeoffs for performance.

Flaps 18 is predicated on runway distance and single engine obstacle clearance. There are no worries with the 12,000' runways at DEN. even on hot humid days.

01-15-2015, 07:37 PM

#6806

Blanco

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Quote:

Originally Posted by HuskerAv8tor

Flaps 18 is predicated on runway distance and single engine obstacle clearance. There are no worries with the 12,000' runways at DEN. even on hot humid days.

Flaps 18 will allow us to not leave anybody or their bags behind out of Gunnison or Montrose or Durango in July.

01-16-2015, 05:50 AM

#6807

CBreezy

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Hou757

Funny to see some of ya'll on the Mesa board pointing out flaws with them and their contract but can't take the heat on here when we do the same to you.

What contract? They are too busy getting shiny jets to worry about negotiating their contract. And there is a HUGE difference between comparing XJT/TSA and TSA/MESA. Mesa, Republic and GJ are some of the worst contracts out there. They have significant issues. AND TSA made huge gains on their last contract. They also are in position to make gains on their next contract.

01-16-2015, 06:26 AM

#6808

tjsatter

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Joined APC: Jul 2008

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverside

Are we really getting the xr this month? I don't want to do the training and fly to stl just to do flaps 18 takeoff.

Why Not? 6 hours pay above guarantee. yah, the XRs are coming +/- 2/15 nobody yet qualified to fly em but that will change rapidly

01-16-2015, 07:09 AM

#6809

CBreezy

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Originally Posted by knobcrk

The cqfo is the first officer. You will be flying right seat until they have enough FOs which will most likely be other CQFOs. Again, it doesn't look too pretty with future staffing and I'm sure they'd rather pay blended rates for a new hire FO rather than not having one at all.

There are plenty of FOs right now. With less than 20 FOs eligible to hold Captain now and 2-6 airplanes a month (At least a 10-30% increase in fleet size and staffing requirement per month) showing up this spring, the CQFOs will get a good share of left seat time. I would expect them to increase their FO hiring in late spring or summer