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Old 11-29-2014, 12:43 PM
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For those interested in CQFO:




Today at 3:28 PM










The Professional Pilot Left Seat Direct Program allows new hire pilots who meet the qualifications for Captain to fly as both a Captain and a First Officer. CQFOs earn a Captain’s wage while flying as Captain and a First Officer wage considerably higher than that of a traditional First Officer. The program offers professional pilots benefits that are integral to achieving goals associated with long-term career progression, thus making a move to a another airline less financially punitive. In short, the benefits afforded by this program make a lateral transition an intelligent career advancement opportunity.



Benefits Include:

• A wage structure higher than most new hire wages

• The ability to start or continue earning PIC time quickly

• A new hire training experience that will complement your previous experience, while providing additional preparation for a long-term career in airline operations

• An established company with over 30 years of regional airline experience





Other Airline Pay Comparison:






Airline A*

Airline B*

Airline C*

Airline D*

Trans States PIC Direct**


Year One Rate

$24.00

$20.50

$22.00

$23.00

$43.42


Guaranteed Hours

75

76

76

75

75


Monthly Pay

$1,800.00

$1,558.00

$1,672.00

$1,725.00

$3,256.50


Minimum Yearly Pay

$21,600.00

$18,696.00

$20,064.00

$20,700.00

$33,793.00


*Comparison Airlines listed above are all regionals operating comparable equipment over similar routes

**The Trans States PIC Direct Plan is based upon:

• 3 months of training at year one First Officer pay

• 9 months of service as a Captain Qualified First Officer





Minimum Qualifications:

• 3,500 hours total time

• 1,000 hours multi-engine time

• 1,000 FAR Part 121 time (Can be a combination of Part 121 and Part 135 time. Time for this qualification is considered on a case-by-case basis.)



For more information regarding the Left Seat Direct Program, contact Laura Vigneau at [email protected]
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What happens after the nine months of CQFO?
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Old 11-29-2014, 01:49 PM
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Any opinions/thoughts for someone that is eligible for the CQFO program:
December Compass class or December TSA class?
(not a decision I have to make, just curious)
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Old 11-29-2014, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by sflpilot
What happens after the nine months of CQFO?
You go to second year pay.. 3 months in training + 9 months as CQFO= your first year.

2nd year pay goes up quite a bit for flying in the right seat as CQFO also.
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Old 11-29-2014, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingKat
For those interested in CQFO:
Today at 3:28 PM

The Professional Pilot Left Seat Direct Program allows new hire pilots who meet the qualifications for Captain to fly as both a Captain and a First Officer. CQFOs earn a Captain’s wage while flying as Captain and a First Officer wage considerably higher than that of a traditional First Officer. The program offers professional pilots benefits that are integral to achieving goals associated with long-term career progression, thus making a move to a another airline less financially punitive. In short, the benefits afforded by this program make a lateral transition an intelligent career advancement opportunity.

Benefits Include:

• A wage structure higher than most new hire wages

• The ability to start or continue earning PIC time quickly

• A new hire training experience that will complement your previous experience, while providing additional preparation for a long-term career in airline operations

• An established company with over 30 years of regional airline experience

Other Airline Pay Comparison:
Airline A*
Airline B*
Airline C*
Airline D*

Trans States PIC Direct**
Year One Rate
$24.00
$20.50
$22.00
$23.00
$43.42

Guaranteed Hours
75
76
76
75
75

Monthly Pay
$1,800.00
$1,558.00
$1,672.00
$1,725.00
$3,256.50

Minimum Yearly Pay
$21,600.00
$18,696.00
$20,064.00
$20,700.00
$33,793.00
*Comparison Airlines listed above are all regionals operating comparable equipment over similar routes
**The Trans States PIC Direct Plan is based upon:

• 3 months of training at year one First Officer pay

• 9 months of service as a Captain Qualified First Officer

Minimum Qualifications:

• 3,500 hours total time

• 1,000 hours multi-engine time

• 1,000 FAR Part 121 time (Can be a combination of Part 121 and Part 135 time. Time for this qualification is considered on a case-by-case basis.)

For more information regarding the Left Seat Direct Program, contact Laura Vigneau at [email protected]
You forgot the most important thing on the bottom of the page:

"The Professional Pilot Left Seat Direct Program is offered at the sole discretion of Trans States Airlines and may be modified or discontinued at any time."

Something to keep in mind if the music stops suddenly. I hope it doesn't, but go in with your eyes open.
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Old 11-29-2014, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
$43 an hour to sign for a 121 jet? ELOHEL
You make $61/hr when acting as PIC.
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Old 11-29-2014, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
$43 an hour to sign for a 121 jet? ELOHEL
Dude, how many times are you going to get this wrong? This isn't hard. Almost all regionals have CQFO sections of their contract.
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Old 11-29-2014, 03:52 PM
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Originally Posted by FaceBiter
$43 an hour to sign for a 121 jet? ELOHEL
Are you retarded?
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Old 11-29-2014, 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Do you know what the word average means? Every airline that is less than the XJT contract can't be below average. Of the regional airlines (Horizon, XJT, Skywest, Wis, PDT, PSA, Mesa, Republic, CommutAir, Silver, Endeavor, Envoy, GoJet, Compass, Trans States, Great Lakes) how many contracts are better than Trans States and why?

Horizon, AWAC, and xjt have above average contracts. Everyone else, including TSA is below average or average and it's certainly debatable on where TSA falls on that list. So far from what I've gathered, they are below average. Twice I have listed the sections of your contract that were above, at, and below average. You can go back and reference them if you want.

Originally Posted by RgrMurdock
Funny that we're comparing awac and tsa contracts. We all know awac is better. I think all anyone on here is trying to say is that compared to all the regionals in the mix we are slightly above the average. Negotiations are opening in a few months. We're fixing to rectify some of the poorer sections of our contract.

Why is it funny? Management (mainline and regional) have been whipsawing us regional pilots because of pilot contracts. It's completely relevant. I don't believe your contract is above average, on the contrary. Now, if these aircraft were coming from, PSA for example, then it's aircraft (and pilots) moving to better pilot contracts. But that's not the case with some of these aircraft.

By the way, I really hope that you guys can now set the bar.

Originally Posted by MavAv8r
This. People forget this contract came about when everyone was taking concessions. We have the chance to make some good improvements in it. Especially with airplanes coming on property and the company needing to staff it.

When exactly what your current contract ratified?

Originally Posted by AaronFly4Livin
No shortage of guys showing up to interview and several are coming from other regionals. I am not saying that this will last forever but looks like TSA recruiting is doing just fine getting guys to show up for our two classes per month. It's not a whipsaw and sorry but I won't walk with my head down because certain pilot groups are not happy about our growth.

It is a whipsaw. But it's not because of TSA pilots. I don't expect any TSA to feel ashamed and personally I don't look down at them but don't take it personal when I say that I hope your staffing strategy fails.

Originally Posted by Pilottim79
Dude, how many times are you going to get this wrong? This isn't hard. Almost all regionals have CQFO sections of their contract.

Which ones don't? I know xjt doesn't but which others don't?
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Old 11-29-2014, 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Nevets
Horizon, AWAC, and xjt have above average contracts. Everyone else, including TSA is below average or average and it's certainly debatable on where TSA falls on that list. So far from what I've gathered, they are below average. Twice I have listed the sections of your contract that were above, at, and below average. You can go back and reference them if you want.




Why is it funny? Management (mainline and regional) have been whipsawing us regional pilots because of pilot contracts. It's completely relevant. I don't believe your contract is above average, on the contrary. Now, if these aircraft were coming from, PSA for example, then it's aircraft (and pilots) moving to better pilot contracts. But that's not the case with some of these aircraft.




When exactly what your current contract ratified?




It is a whipsaw. But it's not because of TSA pilots. I don't expect any TSA to feel ashamed and personally I don't look down at them but don't take it personal when I say that I hope your staffing strategy fails.




Which ones don't? I know xjt doesn't but which others don't?
Don't take it personal that I hope your company dies and crashes in flames.

Too late.
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