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Old 10-29-2014, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by WLF311
Some crazy Swede fed me a "15 new airplanes" rumor.....
The "official" rumor is 32 planes and we are in final stages of negotiations. Who knows if we win. Don't know anyone else that would even be in play for United 50 seat flying.
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Um ExpressJet? But thanks for salivating over our XRs.
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Um ExpressJet? But thanks for salivating over our XRs.
Doesn't Ual own most?
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UAL leases and then subleases to us. Semantics I know but the point remains. We have 8 year FOs and seeing fellow ALPA members getting excited over undercutting us leaves a bad taste. Especially with ya'lls experience with GoJet.
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Old 10-29-2014, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by g-code
UAL leases and then subleases to us. Semantics I know but the point remains. We have 8 year FOs and seeing fellow ALPA members getting excited over undercutting us leaves a bad taste. Especially with ya'lls experience with GoJet.

Not that I would be unsympathetic to you guys losing flying; but this (if even true) would be nothing like the GoJet situation circa 2004.
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Old 10-29-2014, 05:05 PM
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Originally Posted by g-code
UAL leases and then subleases to us. Semantics I know but the point remains. We have 8 year FOs and seeing fellow ALPA members getting excited over undercutting us leaves a bad taste. Especially with ya'lls experience with GoJet.
I gotcha I don't want to see anybody loose flying, I wasn't sure how many Ual owned or leased.
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Old 10-29-2014, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by soill
Not that I would be unsympathetic to you guys losing flying; but this (if even true) would be nothing like the GoJet situation circa 2004.
I feel for any ALPA pilot going through a bad time, but NOTHING close to Blowjet. Also, undercutting, hardly. We are NOT PSA or Mesa. We have one of the best contracts around. Express Jet under cut US 4 years ago when they bid the flying under cost. TSA didn't force Express jet to under bid itself then subsequently bleed money.

I feel your emotions man, I really do. 6 1/2 year FO here, but your logic is way off. Plus, Skywest doesn't even want the contract anymore cause it is such a loser. So, it is less us taking it and more Skywest dumping it.
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I wouldn't say our contact it the best around. Above industry average? Yes. But it is not as good as express jet. We have been making improvements around here for years. We did not vote in concessions to get any kind of new flying
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Just to be clear, I'm not accusing you guys of undercutting via concessions. We just have a higher cost structure and that's a fact of life. It just seems some here are a little too excited to be flying the almighty XR.
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Originally Posted by g-code
Just to be clear, I'm not accusing you guys of undercutting via concessions. We just have a higher cost structure and that's a fact of life. It just seems some here are a little too excited to be flying the almighty XR.
Ever flown the ep on a hot summer day?
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