Originally Posted by CBreezy

I'd say you just missed the cutoff. I have friends who've been there less than a year and have already flown 600 hours. Sometimes you get bad breaks I guess.

Originally Posted by harvick4

To volunteer to fly you have to sit 10 hr airport reserve.

Originally Posted by ArcherDvr

LOL. And because they have kool aid drinkers and cheerleaders like you they get away with it. When I interview with a company I'm not looking for guarantees, but an realistic assessment of the situation. Barring a drastic announcement (losing planes, a huge price increase in oil, the company can go bankrupt), a recruiter should be able to predict almost no reserve, vs the entire class sitting reserve, a 6-14 month upgrade, verses a 22 month upgrade. Just because a handful junior to that upgraded, doesn't make it a 1 year upgrade.
These places flat out lie to get recruits through the door, and maybe some experienced guys know this, but many first time FI's don't. They lie, because they know once you are in the door, they have you by the balls, and you're going to suck up what ever they dish out to protect your record.

The fact that people are leaving proves the point. They aren't leaving because they were told at the interview "hey, sign on, as things are right now we are going to have you sit reserve for the next 6 months." No they are leaving because they were probably told the opposite. Because pilots like you don't hold the company responsible for this deception, they keep doing it.

Originally Posted by ArcherDvr

There's potential for me to screw your wife, doesn't mean at this point in time it's a realistic assessment of the situation.

Originally Posted by harvick4

I believed nothing the recruiter told me. Yes, upgrade was a year when I interviewed but that was for guys hired a year prior. I wasn't expecting a quick upgrade, but never thought I'd only have 144 hrs 6 months after my checkride and I haven't flown since Aug 29.

My only gripes are no limit for the amount of times you can be assigned airport reserve.
To volunteer to fly you have to sit 10 hr airport reserve. Scheduling then won't use you unless its a repo or last min fill-in. Sick calls go to short call reserve.
You have to call the CP to get an early release on day 6 with 15 other pilots on reserve after every plane has left. (maybe this is normal everywhere else, just seems strange.)

Originally Posted by FlyingKat

LOL say what you want, but I wasn't stupid enough to think I could go anywhere and not sit reserve. Didn't you get fired here? Sounds like your gripes are more sour grapes than anything else. Most of the people I know that are leaving is due to the desire to upgrade quickly. That is fine, but one should keep in mind what happened to all the guys who left here for Expressjet before, and would now be upgrading if they stayed. Everybody always thinks the grass is greener, till you get there and find out its not what you thought.

Originally Posted by FlyingKat

Maybe you should consider a career change if you can't deal with what is required to work in this industry. What are you on your third airline now?

Originally Posted by ArcherDvr

I have no problem with hard work. I have a problem with making a plan based on what a prospective employer tells me, and then it ends up costing me a ton of money because they weren't even close.

Originally Posted by TBucket

You know that reserve volunteer and airport reserve volunteer are two different things, right?

Originally Posted by FlyingKat

LOL I can remember when guys were griping cause they were working too much, getting junior manned, and worn out. Can't win for losing. I'll take the present environment when all my drops get approved and I never hear a peep from scheduling about junior mans. Enjoy this because it won't last long.