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#2702
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2010
Posts: 105
If we all start failing, who are they going to have fly the AC?
#2703
I think the washout rate is about 40%. But it is true, the training isn't that hard. You just have to study on your own. Memory items and limitations are what sets the tone for an oral. It is true that TSA has more than most other carriers. But simply memorizing some numbers and memory items should be the easiest part. If you start screwing up limitation numbers at the beginning of an oral it sends the red flag up for the instructor - breeze through them and things get a little more relaxed.
#2704
As bad as this sounds, this is pretty much why they have a high washout rate. The trainIng is not that hard, there's just no spoon feeding.
#2705
Thanks for the replies, gents.
After reading your replies, I still get the feeling TSA allows someone to come and play airline pilot with less than a stellar chance for success. It sounds like a rather poor one given how important it is not to fail. 40% chance of failing? Up to 50% many times? While all training programs require ardent self-study and self-discipline, it defies personal experience that anyone putting themselves on the line to do something such as start an airline career is not studying pretty hard to begin with. There is something else going on with a high washout rate. Whether the issue is poor candidate selection or that struggling candidates are abandoned mid-stream is not my point. My point is, that no airline should be washing out this many people.
Perhaps a figure of around 10% is a minimum washout rate for any well-run training department, you will always have a few dropouts on account of botched applications and family issues. More than that speaks of a systemic flaw in the training and/ or selection process in my view. It says we will roll the dice on you, it is cheaper for us to do that than to take care of you once you commit.
Again, thank for the replies.
After reading your replies, I still get the feeling TSA allows someone to come and play airline pilot with less than a stellar chance for success. It sounds like a rather poor one given how important it is not to fail. 40% chance of failing? Up to 50% many times? While all training programs require ardent self-study and self-discipline, it defies personal experience that anyone putting themselves on the line to do something such as start an airline career is not studying pretty hard to begin with. There is something else going on with a high washout rate. Whether the issue is poor candidate selection or that struggling candidates are abandoned mid-stream is not my point. My point is, that no airline should be washing out this many people.
Perhaps a figure of around 10% is a minimum washout rate for any well-run training department, you will always have a few dropouts on account of botched applications and family issues. More than that speaks of a systemic flaw in the training and/ or selection process in my view. It says we will roll the dice on you, it is cheaper for us to do that than to take care of you once you commit.
Again, thank for the replies.
Last edited by Cubdriver; 09-03-2012 at 06:20 AM. Reason: editing
#2706
Ok so ive spent the last couple of days reading through this thread. Seems like TSA has gone through its fair share of ups and downs. So what is the future for this company, is it a step away from going under, being bought out or is there growth? Are furloughs still expected September 2013? The only contact I have had with TSA is at the recent Boston Job Fair and the interview call i got. The call consisted of when can you interview.
#2707
Ok so ive spent the last couple of days reading through this thread. Seems like TSA has gone through its fair share of ups and downs. So what is the future for this company, is it a step away from going under, being bought out or is there growth? Are furloughs still expected September 2013? The only contact I have had with TSA is at the recent Boston Job Fair and the interview call i got. The call consisted of when can you interview.
Fortunately the rumor about furloughs turned out to be false. (at least for sept, anyways). The thing with TSA is it's so small now that any change at all is huge. +/-7 to 10 planes is the difference between every FO getting upgraded and every FO getting furloughed. My personal crystal ball doesn't see any big changes in the near future. But your guess is as good as mine at this point.
#2708
Short term through this year seems to be status quo. Looking into next year when planes start coming up to lease terms, things look more uncertain.
#2709
Learn from my mistake, don't go. Its like dating a crazy girl, up then down but always ends badly. Just my experience and my opinion.
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