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Old 11-05-2015, 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Ex lurker
Believe whatever you want to.

Why didn't you take the last airframe?
I don't know. I told you my theory about stopping the at-risk PIT flying that was originally staffed with 3 airplanes. That might have something to do with it.
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Old 11-05-2015, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Ex lurker
Believe whatever you want to.

Why didn't you take the last airframe?
Your Union is the only one saying we aren't taking it. Until it comes from our company that we aren't taking it I don't believe any rhetoric that your Union tells you.

Because they've never given you bad information before....remember vote no, no one else can staff?
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Old 11-05-2015, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GotBanned
Your Union is the only one saying we aren't taking it. Until it comes from our company that we aren't taking it I don't believe any rhetoric that your Union tells you.

Because they've never given you bad information before....remember vote no, no one else can staff?
ENY management is saying it too.
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Old 11-05-2015, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by GotBanned
Your Union is the only one saying we aren't taking it. Until it comes from our company that we aren't taking it I don't believe any rhetoric that your Union tells you.

Because they've never given you bad information before....remember vote no, no one else can staff?
Ok. Wait for it from your own people.
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Old 11-05-2015, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by GotBanned
Your Union is the only one saying we aren't taking it. Until it comes from our company that we aren't taking it I don't believe any rhetoric that your Union tells you.

Because they've never given you bad information before....remember vote no, no one else can staff?
It wasn't from our union.

Some people think this is will be next month type thing. Those N6__AE airframes went over fresh from a heavy check from MQT or ABI. They will be operated by TSA until the next heavy check. That's anywhere between 18-24 months. Who knows what will happen in 18-24 months. Look what has happened in the last 18-24 months. Are there triggers that could cause them to be returned to AAG (not saying Envoy specifically) sooner? Envoy management seems to think so. But if we can;t trust our management, and you say we shouldn't trust our union, lets just see what happens. It's 14 or 15 airframes. The one that may/may not be going over is not going to break the bank on either side and we have at least a year until the rest are even a consideration.

So everyone just call the F down.

Oh, and be gentle with this batch
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Old 11-05-2015, 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by livetofly2123
what base should i expect to get out of training and how long would it take to move on form there?
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Hey man, not sure if anyone ever got around to answering your question...

Right now, STL is the only base getting any new hires and there are a few vacancies around the rest of the system getting filled but it seems like its been somewhat slow for new guys getting out of stl because we have been getting our AA airframes much faster than our UA airframes.

Our AA growth is basically finished now however.

Id guess now not more more than a few months though to get out of stl and pretty much to anywhere. Additionally, we are preparing to open an rdu base supposedly in march to staff our AA flying better with a "dry run" on our November standing bid peroid to judge how many people are interested in moving.

That will take some of the flying out of STL but how exactly that shift will shake out is subject to considerable speculation. I dont think there is a really solid answer on that right now.

After that, more UA airframes are supposed to be sent to DEN and DEN is supposedly going to begin to grow again.

Hope that helps....
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Old 11-05-2015, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by snippercr
It wasn't from our union.

Some people think this is will be next month type thing. Those N6__AE airframes went over fresh from a heavy check from MQT or ABI. They will be operated by TSA until the next heavy check. That's anywhere between 18-24 months. Who knows what will happen in 18-24 months. Look what has happened in the last 18-24 months. Are there triggers that could cause them to be returned to AAG (not saying Envoy specifically) sooner? Envoy management seems to think so. But if we can;t trust our management, and you say we shouldn't trust our union, lets just see what happens. It's 14 or 15 airframes. The one that may/may not be going over is not going to break the bank on either side and we have at least a year until the rest are even a consideration.

So everyone just call the F down.

Oh, and be gentle with this batch
And Hulas will stamp them with his official turd stamp and remove the thrust reverser's to save money and create mass weight and balance problems!

I hated that airplane!
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Old 11-06-2015, 03:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Ex lurker
It's confirmed now that the last of the envoy 145's scheduled to be transferred to you won't and the ones there now will be coming back.

Looks like you are spared from that horrible east coast flying. Whew.
Take them by all means! They're all yours.
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Old 11-06-2015, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Ex lurker
Believe whatever you want to.

Why didn't you take the last airframe?
Hate to burst your bubble but all 15 are here and the only aircraft getting delayed are UA 145s because the company has made staffing the AA airplanes a priority because that contract is more lucrative. If we lose anything it will be UA ot AA.
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Old 11-06-2015, 06:02 AM
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Originally Posted by BitterOHFO
And Hulas will stamp them with his official turd stamp and remove the thrust reverser's to save money and create mass weight and balance problems!

I hated that airplane!
And from the sounds of it, not many people here cared for you much either.

Welllll at COMMMMMMAAAAAIIIIIIRRRRR....On the SEEEEEEEE ARRRRREEEE JAAAAAAAY.

Give it a rest, nobody cares.
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