HappyToGoVisual

How do you do it? Some say start retarding at 100 and be idle at 50 and even start a gentle flair then, others say pull to idle at 50, flare late and minimally.

I find I get low on energy if I start retarding at 100 and really have to increase pitch in the flare which makes the plane mushy and often plunks it onto the runway. On the other hand if I retard at 50 I easily float.

I’d rather put it down near the aiming points consistently than go for greasers. And I do look at the visual picture down the rwy to determine the sink rate, it’s just that this aircraft seems to be very dependent on the right speed. To much and it just floats; too little and it gets mushy and just falls down.

So far I guess I’ve settled with retarding at 50 which in itself initiates a pitch up and then I nudge it up a little bit more about 10. But it doesn’t always work.

Any tips?

captain152

What works for me is to start a slow reduction at 100 ft. By 50 ft (crossing the thresh hold) I'll start pulling the power back more aggressively, and begin the slow flare at the same time. Always pitch like you're aiming for the opposite end of the runway.

It doesn't work every time (strong winds, wake turbulence avoidance, etc), but this will put me in the TD zone (1,000-1,500 ft) with a smooth touchdown 90% of the time.

I'll be interested to see others inputs. It isn't easy to flare this thing and still land in the TD zone.

wrxpilot

I do the same thing, but honestly I have a hard time pulling too much power back before 50 ft since I fly the 700 a lot more. But after a day or two getting comfortable with the 200 again, your technique is what I prefer.

Yazzoo

Approach at Ref + 5, no more than +10 for really gusty winds.

When I hear "100":
If I'm slow, I leave the power in and swipe it at 50'
If I'm fast, I swipe the power out immediately
If I'm on speed, I gradually reduce it so I'm at idle by 50'

Apply crosswind correction at 50'

Start flaring at 40 feet, 30 is too late for me

When you hear "10," hold it off and try to fly in formation with the runway. You will touch down in the touchdown zone consistently with acceptable smoothness.

Look at my mustache, that's how you know I'm right!!!!!

I am not responsible for any landings you bounce or airplanes you break using this technique!

80ktsClamp

This assumes on speed/neutrall energy trend:

At max weight I would wipe the power at 50 feet. Light weight I would start easing the power out at 100 feet and be idle by 50.

If I had negative energy trend, I would leave the power in longer... positive I may have been idle by 75 feet.

Fly782

Are you at XJT now?

Yazzoo

Yessir, looks like you decided to try your hand at the Russian jets?

Act3

That's a good point about adjusting the initial power reduction with landing weight. When I fly the 200 power comes to idle passing the 50' call. Around 30-20' I'd apply enough back pressure to "check" the descent rate, then relax the back pressure. Results in a slightly flat landing attitude, but usually smooth touchdown prior to the 2,000' markers.

Silver02ex

I look at the "green line" at 100' if speed is above the green line, I'll pull some power back, and at 50' I take all the power out. If my speed is below the green line, I will keep the power in longer even to about 30 ish feet, then pull it out. The Vref and the green line doesn't always match. Sometimes it's a few kts off. I still fly the bug but use the green line as a reference to when to pull the power back.

mooney

under normal conditions, I'm a retard at 100 ft and off at 50 feet kinda guy. The key to this technique is remember your thrust vector wanting to nose up with power decrease, and hold that initial lawn dart attitude until the flare. If you hold that nose down attitude (you may actually have to apply slight yoke forward pressure) you don't bleed off so much speed that you get mushy. Usually the mushiness is caused (in the off by 50 technique) by also raising the nose and flaring early, not the thrust cut itself.