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Old 12-22-2012, 10:25 AM
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I have a GROL do I still need to get a restricted license?
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Old 12-22-2012, 12:31 PM
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I'm guessing not. The General gives you the authority of the Marine but neither talks about the Restricted. Again, the requirement isn't FCC but foreign governments. The FCC issues the RR to pilots (among others) to prove to other countries that we do license, cough, cough, our pilots to talk on the radio. So I'd think any radiotelephone license should do since the RR is the lowest grade issued. When I started flying and you did have to have a radio license to fly domestically (at least if the plane had a radio), I had a radiotelephone third class with a broadcast endorsement. Drove people crazy because it wasn't what they were used to seeing. When it expired I just got the RR.

Your best bet is to call the FCC, 888-callfcc. While their website drives me crazy, I've found the people on the phone very helpful.
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Old 12-23-2012, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Twin Wasp
I'm guessing not. The General gives you the authority of the Marine but neither talks about the Restricted. Again, the requirement isn't FCC but foreign governments. The FCC issues the RR to pilots (among others) to prove to other countries that we do license, cough, cough, our pilots to talk on the radio. So I'd think any radiotelephone license should do since the RR is the lowest grade issued. When I started flying and you did have to have a radio license to fly domestically (at least if the plane had a radio), I had a radiotelephone third class with a broadcast endorsement. Drove people crazy because it wasn't what they were used to seeing. When it expired I just got the RR.

Your best bet is to call the FCC, 888-callfcc. While their website drives me crazy, I've found the people on the phone very helpful.
Thanks! I'll give that number a call.
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Old 12-23-2012, 05:34 PM
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Mines been laminated since 1973. Had to have it then. The GA aircraft then also had to have a radio station license (you guys remember "ARROW"?) Got to have it now for foreign ops, as in most of the regional carriers.
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Old 12-24-2012, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Twin Wasp
I'm guessing not. The General gives you the authority of the Marine but neither talks about the Restricted. Again, the requirement isn't FCC but foreign governments. The FCC issues the RR to pilots (among others) to prove to other countries that we do license, cough, cough, our pilots to talk on the radio. So I'd think any radiotelephone license should do since the RR is the lowest grade issued. When I started flying and you did have to have a radio license to fly domestically (at least if the plane had a radio), I had a radiotelephone third class with a broadcast endorsement. Drove people crazy because it wasn't what they were used to seeing. When it expired I just got the RR.

Your best bet is to call the FCC, 888-callfcc. While their website drives me crazy, I've found the people on the phone very helpful.
Legally I think you're correct. But all the people you might have to show that thing to might not know the right answer, they might believe the right answer to be simply what they are used to seeing... FAA, airline interviewers, check airmen, and worst of all foreign inspectors or God Forbid mexican cops/military.
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Old 12-26-2012, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by determined2fly
Anyone know if it is ok to laminate this document? Thank you.
Our POI recommended that we laminate all of our licenses and medical certificate. I don't know many pilots who didn't have everything laminated.

Just my two cents.

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Old 12-26-2012, 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Apokleros
What exactly is the benefit behind buying this permit? How does one acquire it? Does it really cost $60 to get it when it seems to be so worthless?
Listen to the large radials (Twin Wasp)...they speak the truth. Why have a Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit ? Because you are required to have one for at least international flight operations. I've had Int'l line checks and been asked for it.

BTW, does anyone have one dated prior to 11-26-71 ? I'm know....I'm an Old Fart and enjoying life as such.

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Old 12-27-2012, 06:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Phantom Flyer
Our POI recommended that we laminate all of our licenses and medical certificate.
Sound advice. I got my RTO back when I first started my PPL in '82. I carried it in my wallet for years and years. When I finally dug it out to start applying at places after I retired from the USAF, it was tattered and worn and barely legible. Although it was still valid, I ordered a new one and laminated it. Yeah, it was $60, but so what?

I also laminate my medicals - after I scan them into my computer. My AME uses an inkjet printer, so if it gets wet, it's toast!
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Old 01-12-2013, 08:53 PM
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Laminators, ink jets... Someday we'll be on here asking, is it ok to have your credentials chip implanted in your shoulder or does it have to be in your wrist?

JK, mine's laminated.
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Old 01-12-2013, 09:52 PM
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Anyone know if it is ok to laminate this document? Thank you.
Mine's been laminated for 35 years. Haven't spent more than a night in the slammer for it.

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