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Old 05-22-2008, 04:38 PM
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Which make and model FMS do you prefer?
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Old 05-22-2008, 06:02 PM
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Having used all 3, I'll take Collins over any other. The ProLine series is the best out there.
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Ive only used the universal and I think it is a little quirky at times. There are many things that if done out of sequence will not work at all and many things get lost in a crossfill.
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Most universal's use direct entry inputs (vs a scratchpad). Most of them also lack the ability to confirm a change visually (dashed line) before it is actually executed in the flight plan. Both of those are big negatives from my POV.
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Very true Josh,
The only way we have to see if a change works is to do it on the NFP side and see how it looks and then either duplicate on the PF side or crossfill. If the PF is however doing a VNAV or a hold you can not crossfill because it will dump their VNAV or hold. Not very logical.
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Originally Posted by FlyerJosh
Having used all 3, I'll take Collins over any other. The ProLine series is the best out there.
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This question comes from a guy NOT familiar with the civilian avionics. When you are talking about FMSs (ProLine -vs- Honeywell for example) are we talking about the whole cockpit layout (the whole avionics package) or just one part of it? I recently sat in a Falcon 50EX that I thought had a Proline 21 cockpit but I hear that it might have been a Proline 4 - but the guy mentioned that the Falcon 2000 they were getting was coming with the EASy cockpit. I looked it up and it was a quite impressive cockpit! Also - talking to a guy who had a lot of time in both the Gulfstream line and Global Express - he thought the whole system onboard the Global was the best out there.
Am I off track with what this thread is addressing?

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Collins takes the cake, hands down. The Honeywells in our planes at XE are so/so. I'm not entirely impressed by them. Although I hear the new Honeywells that come on the 170/190 are fairly nice.
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR
FJ -

This question comes from a guy NOT familiar with the civilian avionics. When you are talking about FMSs (ProLine -vs- Honeywell for example) are we talking about the whole cockpit layout (the whole avionics package) or just one part of it? I recently sat in a Falcon 50EX that I thought had a Proline 21 cockpit but I hear that it might have been a Proline 4 - but the guy mentioned that the Falcon 2000 they were getting was coming with the EASy cockpit. I looked it up and it was a quite impressive cockpit! Also - talking to a guy who had a lot of time in both the Gulfstream line and Global Express - he thought the whole system onboard the Global was the best out there.
Am I off track with what this thread is addressing?

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When civilians compare FMS systems, its mainly about comparing FMS CDU's, the "Box."
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