Originally Posted by Slowhawk
(Post 2694287)
I sincerely apologize if you hear this often, but
I’m considering applying, wondering what life at suncountry is like. For one, I would be a Florida commuter looking for a commutable schedule. I’ve also heard that you’re “doubling” your fleet size and I was wondering what you all thought of this, and the timeline of the fleet expansion, and what you think this will do to movement/upgrade? I’m at Compass, pretty miserable about our grim future, on top of the transcon commute since our MSP base closed. Trying to stick it out so I can upgrade here, but the writing is on the wall about our future...so I am wondering if I have a shot at SY. |
Thanks for the input I suppose:D
But really, if there’s anyone that maybe could shoot me a PM and help me answer some questions I have, I would be endlessly greatful. I’ve got the app all filled out just not sure if I should submit it or not, have a lot of questions :confused: thanks guys! Also if there’s another forum/fb group/recruiter email that you might know about, I’m all ears :) |
Understand that commuting to Sun Country is its own special type of impossible. While you might be used to a Florida to MSP commute with Compass, understand that due to the type of flying Sun Country does that the trips are not commutable in the same way another airline is. Much of the schedule leaves MSP early (6-8 AM) and returns very late (12PM-AM).
I know this has been said many times in this thread before, but with most airlines there is an improvement that happens with your schedule over time. Don't expect that to happen... Unless you are doing day turns (very senior 5+ year FOs, 25+ CAs). Perhaps the 737 is blinding, but really everyone is try to warn people against commuting here for a reason. Ask your questions here. We'll answer. Better that everyone else looking gets a glance inside as well if they are trying to make a decision to apply at Sun Country. This airline is a different animal and it is hard to get a grasp of what it is from the outside looking in. The flying and the schedules are quite unlike anything else. |
Why does it need to be in a PM? Ask the questions here so everyone can benefit.
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If any Sun Country pilots can chime in to this thread I made it would be much appreciated. I was invited to interview.
https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/m...-regional.html How long is captain reserve? And how many hours a month are reserve captains flying? That would be a big factor I think in determining whether I should leave the regionals. |
Originally Posted by Slowhawk
(Post 2695110)
Thanks for the input I suppose:D
But really, if there’s anyone that maybe could shoot me a PM and help me answer some questions I have, I would be endlessly greatful. I’ve got the app all filled out just not sure if I should submit it or not, have a lot of questions :confused: thanks guys! Also if there’s another forum/fb group/recruiter email that you might know about, I’m all ears :) Reserve days are basically stuck on your schedule unless you try to Give them away but you will lose 3.5 hours for every day you trade to a line holder in open time. Until ownership and management treat the pilots better and address the pay and contract they will continual struggle to find pilots to come and stay at Sun Country Airlines. I would stay away as in the last 3-4 years many airlines have received contracts that far and away blow sun country out of the water. Don’t buy into their empty promises. |
Another career ruined by Sun Country
Add another one to the statistics.
I was terminated just before completion of training (type rating) After being 10 years in AQP environment the SCA training was "unexpectedly full of tricks and omissions" and not within the spirit of what AQP is supposed to be. Actual flight experience worked against me, and not for me, because I was expecting "regular" AQP experience instead of trickery and SRM (as opposed to CRM) during training and check rides. Most of my class failed one portion of training or another, so I was not alone by far. Their AQP program is new, so that may be the issue, and I don't think it's the fault of individual instructors, but the "spirit" behind the sim training program is not what FAA AC for AQP is all about. Unfortunately for me, I talked about the training program deficiencies in presence of a check airman (I didn't know that at the time) and he complained to chief pilot who immediately fired me. Be ware and keep your mouth shut during this stressful training time. |
Originally Posted by mrgoodguy
(Post 2695307)
Be ware and keep your mouth shut during this stressful training time.
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Each to their own. If 300 something other guys currently there can make it through , why can’t you? So tired of people bad mouthing training programs cause of their own mishaps. If someone is dedicated and wants something bad enough they can get through it. If you want to go into something with a bad attitude and laziness your setting yourself up for failure.
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Originally Posted by mrgoodguy
(Post 2695307)
Add another one to the statistics.
I was terminated just before completion of training (type rating) After being 10 years in AQP environment the SCA training was "unexpectedly full of tricks and omissions" and not within the spirit of what AQP is supposed to be. Actual flight experience worked against me, and not for me, because I was expecting "regular" AQP experience instead of trickery and SRM (as opposed to CRM) during training and check rides. Most of my class failed one portion of training or another, so I was not alone by far. Their AQP program is new, so that may be the issue, and I don't think it's the fault of individual instructors, but the "spirit" behind the sim training program is not what FAA AC for AQP is all about. Unfortunately for me, I talked about the training program deficiencies in presence of a check airman (I didn't know that at the time) and he complained to chief pilot who immediately fired me. Be ware and keep your mouth shut during this stressful training time. |
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