KingChicken

Well that probably throws my theory out the window. Idk. I’d like to think the company has a plan to balance the pilot group, but if Midterms told us anything about their strategy…. I’m not holding my breath.

section19

You’re talking about the same company who has been telling media all of 2024 thus far that their captain and upgrade problem is “solved”. All this while they have so many FOs it is not uncommon to go 4-5 weeks in between flying on reserve.

kangs

Let’s fuel the rumors….

https://simpleflying.com/southwest-a...ance-analysis/

N152SY

yes!! Going to bid OAK! 😂

StoneQOLdCrazy

I can understand why a Southwest merger would be good for Sun Country and its investors.

But what's in it for Southwest? What makes the juice worth the squeeze? If Southwest wanted to be beholden to Amazon, they already would have done so.

EffSY

Sun country is the pilot and FA group and a merger with a none compatible Union likely stapled to the bottom with turns turning to dust would not be good for "Sun Country"

StoneQOLdCrazy

A merger is rarely good for pilots, good point.

But hopefully someone who wants this merger can explain why Southwest would spend the time and money on it.

N152SY

they wouldn’t. All SWA gets out of it is 40 -800s which by the time a merger/acquisition closed they would have their MAX7s start showing up on property. The WN/SY talk is nothing more than a blogger just tossing ideas at the wall to see what sticks

R0GER BALL

Gates and routes. Southwest expands from its two gates in Minnie to twelve. Very little overlap in route structure. Twin cities metro is a very large urban area with deep pockets for flying someplace warm.
SW would value Sunny's MLS charter too. That is getting ligit. They were WAY ahead of the WNBA.
Probably value 737 mechanics too. Planes? Sell them or keep them. Delta recently bought 30some used 73s.

Sunny is consistently profitable. Probably not a merger with this stock price, maybe a Wall Street leveraged buyout. It's quick and easy. Six months. Ten. Perhaps a year. IDK, not like a merger thou.

Flight crews? Who knows. Might not keep them. Not sure there's anything saying Southwest would need to onboard Sunny people. SWAPA would rather not take the pilots, ruthless like that, but you'd take the flying I bet!
Amazon? It'd be dumped just like Alaska will dump it. Unfortunate for Southwest pilots who'd love to dip a toe into flying 73 freighters with no pax and no FAs.

Sunny majority ownership is Appolo and Blackrock. These billion dollar investment groups probably don't value selling, merging or whatever with SW. Pure speculation, but why would they?

Zero, and I mean ZERO Sun Country pilots would want to become part of the Southwest circus. Tons of things to complain about here, but we work for a healthy company with a product people like. Not sure SW can say that.
SW should just wait for the 7max, or go buy one of the two startups! Like Breeze with its 220s! Good luck with all that.

Edit. What's more likely to happen at Sunny (as far as the name of this thread goes) is something big with Amazon and it's somewhat sister company (common ownership) Atlas. Or Appolo's huge cruise ship biz. Probably not thou. We're making money when many are not.

Pumperpilot

Atlas Air has made the decision to divest itself of the Amazon CMI business (crew, maintenance, and insurance), and will soon begin to transfer all B767 and B737 aircraft currently used for Amazon to other operators.