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04-11-2024, 05:03 PM
#102
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That requirement is not in the FOM. If you have the times, you can upgrade after finishing FO OE. The contract does have the 500 hour requirement, but it also says "the Company may reduce any of the conditions" so it doesn't keep them from following what's in the FOM. If you are WQ and you get an interview, convince them that you want to upgrade and spend a long time on reserve.
04-13-2024, 07:43 AM
#105
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There is no such thing as a direct entry captain here. FOM 2.2.21 dictates this in pretty plain language. All upgrades must first complete FO training, all the way through completion of OE. So they need to be an FO first, then they can be a captain. That’s not a direct entry program.
04-13-2024, 08:33 AM
#106
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Joined APC: Dec 2023
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There is no such thing as a direct entry captain here. FOM 2.2.21 dictates this in pretty plain language. All upgrades must first complete FO training, all the way through completion of OE. So they need to be an FO first, then they can be a captain. That’s not a direct entry program.
04-13-2024, 02:35 PM
#107
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There is no such thing as a direct entry captain here. FOM 2.2.21 dictates this in pretty plain language. All upgrades must first complete FO training, all the way through completion of OE. So they need to be an FO first, then they can be a captain. That’s not a direct entry program.
04-13-2024, 05:52 PM
#108
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04-15-2024, 09:00 AM
#109
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It's weird, and I think you're right that this is what the LOA relieved, however, the company can reduce the requirements with or without the LOA. I think the aforementioned question of having to complete FO IOE is something that has to go through the FAA. Even if the company wanted to change that in the FOM, the FAA would have to approve the training program. Since the company doesn't have any other training program implemented, good luck changing that. If you want to split hairs over semantics, it's not really a direct entry captain set-up, right? But if you look at the FO training as part of your training pathway to the captain, it's pretty close to being a direct-entry scenario. Assuming, of course, that you have all the required times.
04-19-2024, 10:29 AM
#110
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Joined APC: Dec 2019
Posts: 511
One of you guys must be management! The 500 company hours for upgrade suddenly reappeared this week. Hummm. My money is on YerOnGuard. Knows FOM a little too well!
Very, very, few are upgrading anyway.
Just fifteen upgrades first five months of the year. On pace for thirty-six upgrades in 2024.
Very, very, few are upgrading anyway.
Just fifteen upgrades first five months of the year. On pace for thirty-six upgrades in 2024.
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