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Old 05-07-2022, 06:53 AM
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Originally Posted by nibake
It simply is true. The company is refusing to grant and pay for open time to reserves, which was agreed upon and discussed ad nauseum during TA informational calls and meetings.
Open time for reserves? I assume you’re talking about reserves picking up open time over their vacation, because that’s the only time they’re allowed to do so.
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Old 05-07-2022, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by BUMBLE
They have failed to implement first out last out for reserves.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t the JWG come up with a fix to that too? You are to email CS to tell them your preference. If you don’t, you are assumed first out.
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Old 05-07-2022, 07:50 AM
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Yup, and why is that?
I guess everything the union said the other week was incorrect….my bad.
“having a manual process would be too extraneous.”
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Old 05-07-2022, 07:56 AM
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The company is also awarding open time to reserves on days off… instead of refusing the bid, they accept it to cover the flying. Then those guys grieve cause they didn’t get premium pay.
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Old 05-07-2022, 08:58 AM
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The company is also awarding open time to reserves on days off… instead of refusing the bid, they accept it to cover the flying. Then those guys grieve cause they didn’t get premium pay.
So two wrongs are suppose to make a right??? Seriously 🤦‍♂️
Why are reserves putting in for open time when they know they’re not suppose to??? You want our union spending time to deal with grievances that were caused by pilots in the first place? That’s some backwards thinking.
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Old 05-07-2022, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by ablack722
So two wrongs are suppose to make a right??? Seriously 🤦‍♂️
Why are reserves putting in for open time when they know they’re not suppose to??? You want our union spending time to deal with grievances that were caused by pilots in the first place? That’s some backwards thinking.
Originally Posted by ablack722
Open time for reserves? I assume you’re talking about reserves picking up open time over their vacation, because that’s the only time they’re allowed to do so.
Where have you been? There were presentations, calls, and emails addressing this throughout November and December and it was beat to death that reserves would be able to pick up open time. Pull the tapes. I mentioned this in the previous post and you either missed or ignored it. If you are asking rhetorical questions with "???" it might be time to put down the phone and take a walk.

Also, please consider that while you might not be experiencing it personally, trashing the idea that the company is falling short in certain areas is awfully inconsiderate of those who are affected by it.
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Old 05-07-2022, 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by nibake
Where have you been? There were presentations, calls, and emails addressing this throughout November and December and it was beat to death that reserves would be able to pick up open time. Pull the tapes. I mentioned this in the previous post and you either missed or ignored it. If you are asking rhetorical questions with "???" it might be time to put down the phone and take a walk.

Also, please consider that while you might not be experiencing it personally, trashing the idea that the company is falling short in certain areas is awfully inconsiderate of those who are affected by it.
I’ll summarize to keep it short…
- If you’re talking about someone on a pure reserve line, they cannot pick up open time except when on vacation (25.I.1.b.3). Send a DART or provide another section that says otherwise. I’m open to being wrong.
-Yes, a rhetorical question can end in either a (?), (.), or a (!).
-Trashing - No
-Explaining that the company has been UNABLE to implement a small percentage of the contract and not UNWILLING to do so was my point. Being UNABLE to do so due to staffing shortages and vendor issues (AIMS) is, in this case, different than UNWILLING.

That’s about as basic as I can make it. If you disagree, that’s fine.
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Old 05-08-2022, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ablack722
I’ll summarize to keep it short…
- If you’re talking about someone on a pure reserve line, they cannot pick up open time except when on vacation (25.I.1.b.3). Send a DART or provide another section that says otherwise. I’m open to being wrong.
-Yes, a rhetorical question can end in either a (?), (.), or a (!).
-Trashing - No
-Explaining that the company has been UNABLE to implement a small percentage of the contract and not UNWILLING to do so was my point. Being UNABLE to do so due to staffing shortages and vendor issues (AIMS) is, in this case, different than UNWILLING.

That’s about as basic as I can make it. If you disagree, that’s fine.
The company has not allocated the appropriate resources to implement the contract fully or staff the airline appropriately.
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Old 05-08-2022, 08:26 AM
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May 5, 2022 Quarterly earnings call
https://edge.media-server.com/mmc/p/fikp5hdq
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Old 05-08-2022, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by ablack722
I’ll summarize to keep it short…
- If you’re talking about someone on a pure reserve line, they cannot pick up open time except when on vacation (25.I.1.b.3). Send a DART or provide another section that says otherwise. I’m open to being wrong.
-Yes, a rhetorical question can end in either a (?), (.), or a (!).
-Trashing - No
-Explaining that the company has been UNABLE to implement a small percentage of the contract and not UNWILLING to do so was my point. Being UNABLE to do so due to staffing shortages and vendor issues (AIMS) is, in this case, different than UNWILLING.

That’s about as basic as I can make it. If you disagree, that’s fine.
I do disagree, and here's what I would say to the unable vs unwilling discussion. If I go to the lake cabin in northern WI and get called, then I say, hey, I tried to make it there in two hours but I just couldn't do it in 2 hours because my car wasn't fast enough. Then I'm unable, but willing, right? Well, at some point we have to ask if the company's efforts to make things work in the AIMS realm are truly the best effort that could have been given. All the way back to when they signed the dotted line and agreed to provide certain things. To me, it looks a lot like the driving from the cabin scenario.

As far as the open time on reserve scenario goes, I'm not going to go into more detail here on the specifics other than to say that the company is screwing guys over and spitting in the face of what was agreed upon. If you need to know more specifics feel free to PM me.
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