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06-12-2021, 06:42 PM
#171
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Joined APC: Oct 2017
Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 130
Turns are disappearing - which MSP locals will dislike... But are commuters indifferent? One would think less day turns would be better for commuters, but maybe with line bidding, everyone got what they wanted?
Do lines that include Prime flying go junior?
If/when PBS arrives, do you think it will be possible to pick/exclude one type of flying or the other based on preference?
For a 6 day cargo trip, what do those block? Is the pay about even with block or is it better due to trip rig or duty rig?
Also, after 6 days is it just a minimum 1 day off before the next assignment?
The Prime flying, just looking at Flightaware and taking an educated guess, seems to be turns @ AFW and LAL with some of the outstations being:
PDX
ORD
TOL
PIT
BDL
JFK
RIC
CLT
How does the Prime schedule compare to the pax business? Is it better for commuters? or worse?
How would being on reserve relate to the Prime flying vs reserve @ MSP?
Trying to build a better mental image of Sun Country and if it would be a good fit for me.
Thanks in advance
Do lines that include Prime flying go junior?
If/when PBS arrives, do you think it will be possible to pick/exclude one type of flying or the other based on preference?
For a 6 day cargo trip, what do those block? Is the pay about even with block or is it better due to trip rig or duty rig?
Also, after 6 days is it just a minimum 1 day off before the next assignment?
The Prime flying, just looking at Flightaware and taking an educated guess, seems to be turns @ AFW and LAL with some of the outstations being:
PDX
ORD
TOL
PIT
BDL
JFK
RIC
CLT
How does the Prime schedule compare to the pax business? Is it better for commuters? or worse?
How would being on reserve relate to the Prime flying vs reserve @ MSP?
Trying to build a better mental image of Sun Country and if it would be a good fit for me.
Thanks in advance
Amazon flying used to be great for commuters, with offline deadheads on many of the front and backs, but nowadays I usually start with a pax flight out to an Amazon hub, then fly a few freighter flights, with a pax flight home. I think the 1 day off after 6 is only because of FAA rest rules, not a contractual set of days after X days on the road.
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06-13-2021, 10:13 AM
#174
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Position: 737
Posts: 165
06-13-2021, 11:15 AM
#176
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Position: 737
Posts: 165
“A pilot must receive at least one calendar day off in any seven (7) consecutive calendar days.” - 12.B.2.b
It says nothing about “in base.” Trust me, I’ve been burned on it more than once.
06-13-2021, 11:34 AM
#177
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: B-737
Posts: 727
you need 30 off in 168. It’s a 117 rule. The contract only says you need 12 off in domicile. As long as you get your 30 in 7 you could in theory be kept on a 16 day trip that is rigged at 95 hours 4.2/1 rig, (industry worst). As long as you have 12 days off in MSP.
06-13-2021, 03:02 PM
#179
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Joined APC: Jun 2019
Posts: 273
You're being too generous. They could keep you on for 16 days and pay you even less by building back to back trips that start and end around mid-day. That way you can have, for example, a three day trip worth 48 hours of trip rig, or worse. So it is probably possible to do what you described and earn 70 hours.
07-30-2021, 09:41 AM
#180
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Joined APC: Oct 2019
Posts: 14
Earnings
https://m.startribune.com/sun-countr...0/?clmob=y&c=n
Any chance this will impact contract negotiations?
Any chance this will impact contract negotiations?
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