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Old 03-20-2017, 06:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Car Ramrod
This rumor resurfaced because F9 is getting close to their IPO. I heard this week... which is also a rumor.

Edit: Explain to me how merging will cause negotiations to last even longer? Typically the unions have required a JCBA prior to an SLI. The company needs an SLI to streamline the operation. That is unless they are able to keep is completely separate and whipsaw us.
USairways enjoyed huge cost savings by letting east/west fight it out and their pay far behind everyone else.

There is zero benefit to the pilot groups for a merger of f9/nk except for the tiny fraction that wants to be based in abc/xyz etc
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Missed Appch
While I certainly agree that we have quite a few pilots who are similar to battered wives (I guess you don't have those pilots there) we are growing, we're certainly making a ton of money (well Indigo is, and it's not exactly hard to that find out) and the airline isn't "treading water" as our negotiations seem to be catching up to Spirits. Of course that is yet to be seen. I still think it's gonna come down to a strike for us. Probably a race to the strike vote between spirit and F9. Fortunately our mediator is forcing the company to have more sessions per month. If that matters...

I also think that being purchased by JetBlue would would absolutely be better than being bought by Spirit Wings.
I'm personally rooting for F9's success as I have several friends over there but for my professional progression I hope we never come together. Growing? I'd like to see numbers. IIRC, at the beginning of 2015 you had 52 airframes and now, according to APC, you have 65. Is that correct? Here at the beginning of 2015 NK had 58 IIRC and now 100 with another 12 coming this year. Not a 'stick measuring' contest but I have a friend on your side who would be a year senior to me and I'll more than likely upgrade before he does.

How much money are you making? I don't see any numbers, do you have them? I thought Indigo was privately held. Has any data been released in regards to the IPO?

Spirit is on a crash diet trying not be the fattiest ugliest chic in the room and I don't see how merging the only uglier chic in the industry is going to be a good thing. We both need to find a sugar daddy and not be trying to make babies together.
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jamers
I'd also like to add that SPA will likely be extending the merger fund, as the MEC will be voting on it during the spring meeting. Watch for the merger assessments to continue.
Can I assume they'll keep &^%$#!@ the FO's again this time around?
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Macjet
They aren't growing and only Indigo knows if they're making money.
They are growing steadily and have a healthy profit margin. A quick google search will turn up several articles.

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...airline with different engines, different cabin configurations, different manuals, and a different reservation system.
That describes just about every airline merger that happens.

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A merger with jetBlue, whose board is pushing for better margins, would make far more sense...
JetBlue... which has different manuals, cabin configurations, and reservation system.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:20 AM
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No thread can get off topic faster than this one.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by SourGrapes
you do realize you are years away from a strike don't you?
Being here for the last time around and walking the line...yes, yes I do.

Any other questions?
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Old 03-20-2017, 06:11 PM
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im not a rumor spreader... however i was in mco yesterday and the gate agent told me the airport authority has told them they are building us a crew room outside of security.... ill believe it when i see it... but she told me that to my face 24 hours ago.. so there ya go.
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Old 03-20-2017, 07:33 PM
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"Us" us? "FA" us? Or "them" us?
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Old 03-20-2017, 08:39 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002
im not a rumor spreader... however i was in mco yesterday and the gate agent told me the airport authority has told them they are building us a crew room outside of security.... ill believe it when i see it... but she told me that to my face 24 hours ago.. so there ya go.
Solid info. Thanks.
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Old 03-21-2017, 04:59 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyGuy2002
im not a rumor spreader... however i was in mco yesterday and the gate agent told me the airport authority has told them they are building us a crew room outside of security.... ill believe it when i see it... but she told me that to my face 24 hours ago.. so there ya go.
If the crew room is outside of security, this confirms that we are getting an Orlando base.
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