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Old 03-06-2017, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by The real Mike O
Getting home on strike? ALPA bought tickets for those stuck away from home.

The COBRA benefits...didn't the return to work agreement make you whole? (Just a question...nothing more)
you do realize you are years away from a strike don't you?
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Old 03-19-2017, 04:48 PM
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Bueller....Bueller...

Does this rumor still have legs?!
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Old 03-19-2017, 05:46 PM
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Bueller....Bueller...

Does this rumor still have legs?!
Yes...still just b4 01APR17
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For the record, the following post has absolutely ZERO facts behind it. At ALL!!! Pure speculation and rumor from the F9 side. But I have heard it from more than one pilot. Again, rumor only.

So Spirit is waiting for F9's IPO, then then we are going to merge. Spirit gets an MCO base. F9 gets their LAS base and the new company gets to drag out negotiations even longer.
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Old 03-19-2017, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Missed Appch
For the record, the following post has absolutely ZERO facts behind it. At ALL!!! Pure speculation and rumor from the F9 side. But I have heard it from more than one pilot. Again, rumor only.

So Spirit is waiting for F9's IPO, then then we are going to merge. Spirit gets an MCO base. F9 gets their LAS base and the new company gets to drag out negotiations even longer.
I couldn't think of a worse move for the BOD of Spirit. Who wants F9? They aren't growing and only Indigo knows if they're making money. It's a stagnant operation with a bunch of Stockholm syndrome pilots. While the latter may appeal to our management I can't see acquiring a treading water airline with different engines, different cabin configurations, different manuals, and a different reservation system.

Spirit is trying to raise their level of service albeit ever so slightly. A merger with jetBlue, whose board is pushing for better margins, would make far more sense as we're both trying to become more of each other. They also have the same engines (think manuals and spares) and have wifi that NK will begin installing in 2018.

And FWIW, BWI will be the next base. You heard it here first.
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Old 03-19-2017, 09:45 PM
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I couldn't think of a worse move for the BOD of Spirit. Who wants F9? They aren't growing and only Indigo knows if they're making money. It's a stagnant operation with a bunch of Stockholm syndrome pilots. While the latter may appeal to our management I can't see acquiring a treading water airline with different engines, different cabin configurations, different manuals, and a different reservation system.

Spirit is trying to raise their level of service albeit ever so slightly. A merger with jetBlue, whose board is pushing for better margins, would make far more sense as we're both trying to become more of each other. They also have the same engines (think manuals and spares) and have wifi that NK will begin installing in 2018.

And FWIW, BWI will be the next base. You heard it here first.
While I certainly agree that we have quite a few pilots who are similar to battered wives (I guess you don't have those pilots there) we are growing, we're certainly making a ton of money (well Indigo is, and it's not exactly hard to that find out) and the airline isn't "treading water" as our negotiations seem to be catching up to Spirits. Of course that is yet to be seen. I still think it's gonna come down to a strike for us. Probably a race to the strike vote between spirit and F9. Fortunately our mediator is forcing the company to have more sessions per month. If that matters...

I also think that being purchased by JetBlue would would absolutely be better than being bought by Spirit Wings.
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Originally Posted by Missed Appch
For the record, the following post has absolutely ZERO facts behind it. At ALL!!! Pure speculation and rumor from the F9 side. But I have heard it from more than one pilot. Again, rumor only.

So Spirit is waiting for F9's IPO, then then we are going to merge. Spirit gets an MCO base. F9 gets their LAS base and the new company gets to drag out negotiations even longer.
This rumor is about 3 and a half years old. Not new. Def a possibility and a terrible scenario. It's a race to get a contract before that happens in my eyes.
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Originally Posted by ovrtake92
This rumor is about 3 and a half years old. Not new. Def a possibility and a terrible scenario. It's a race to get a contract before that happens in my eyes.
I would agree. I hope it never happens.
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Originally Posted by Missed Appch
For the record, the following post has absolutely ZERO facts behind it. At ALL!!! Pure speculation and rumor from the F9 side. But I have heard it from more than one pilot. Again, rumor only.

So Spirit is waiting for F9's IPO, then then we are going to merge. Spirit gets an MCO base. F9 gets their LAS base and the new company gets to drag out negotiations even longer.
This rumor resurfaced because F9 is getting close to their IPO. I heard this week... which is also a rumor.

Edit: Explain to me how merging will cause negotiations to last even longer? Typically the unions have required a JCBA prior to an SLI. The company needs an SLI to streamline the operation. That is unless they are able to keep is completely separate and whipsaw us.
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Originally Posted by Car Ramrod
This rumor resurfaced because F9 is getting close to their IPO. I heard this week... which is also a rumor.

Edit: Explain to me how merging will cause negotiations to last even longer? Typically the unions have required a JCBA prior to an SLI. The company needs an SLI to streamline the operation. That is unless they are able to keep is completely separate and whipsaw us.
I'd also like to add that SPA will likely be extending the merger fund, as the MEC will be voting on it during the spring meeting. Watch for the merger assessments to continue.
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