ManFlex

Fundamentally, a paycut is coming to the majority of us. You can vote 'Yes' on the LOA and vote in your own paycut or vote 'No' and let the company impose their will. The difference in pay between the LOA and what management has threatened is so minuscule that I'd rather take my chances with a 'No' vote and know that at least I didn't agree to a paycut at the USA's most profitable carrier.

lowandslow

Exactamundo!

From what I can comprehend (questionable) our contract specifically states gs must be in classroom or FAA appv'd site. Don't see how they can unilaterally homeschool that.

WelcomeToBen

I really don't see how this will result in a pay cut for the majority of our pilots. In some cases, it will result in a slight loss in DHD pay, in other cases, it will result in a slight bump in credit due to the fact that the 10 hrs is payed above line value (see my previous posts). The fact is that the DHD pay will begin to decrease regardless of how we vote with the new training centers in LAS and now apparently DFW so that does need to be taken into account here.

DHD pay to and from training can be a nice perk (if your training is scheduled on days off), but there is nothing in the contract that guarantees an abundance of DHD training pay. As the company gets more and more efficient, they will get better and better at avoiding DHD training pay. One way to look at the LOA is that it actually guarantees more credit hours than our current training section does. There is no guarantee that they have to schedule your training event on days off and with our inability to bid on training schedules, we have very little control over where our training is placed.

vandypilot

Just so I understand why this is such a big deal. Once a year my training month will start with 72 + 10 hours of extra pay and what ever days off my line award started with. If I bid a reserve line and they currently put my training on reserve days, I still only get 72 hours. I guess I don't see the big problem.

Lobaeux

Look. I need all the cash I can get, LOA or not!!

JoeyMeatballs

Holy negative camber!

Lobaeux

That's what a track alignment will do to you...

Lemonade

Funny you should burn up some tires. We are protected on the job for any aircraft damage ( or any company property for that matter ). Why do we need a LOA that now requires a police report to prevent the company from charging us? This LOA actually removes a protection that already exists in the CBA.

They will actually make money from these pads. They buy wholesale but charge us retail 3 years later.

This sure isn't 'industry standard' without a sim card for data. Good luck finding a WIFI signal at the airport. Come in 2 hrs early to download your Jepp revision at 1 mgps speed.

This LOA single handedly provides the biggest financial gift to the company since Contract 2010. My vote is a big fat NO.

As far as Im concerned: work is work, money is money. They want to threaten pulling us into base to read out 10 inch pads? Bring it on!

Qotsaautopilot

It's about days off and efficiency gained by the company and us only getting 2 extra hours for that give to the company.

I'm assuming those of you that are not captains want to be captains some day. Ever been 10 away from upgrade for 5 years on a stagnant list or furloughed by one class?

You don't vote to reduce staffing. That affects everyone's relative seniority and is therefore a concession for the entire pilot group.

Remember this argument when pbs come up and everyone is arguing about sophomoric issues like vacation touch or transition conflict. ITs A STAFFING PROGRAM IN THE SIMPLEST TERMS!! Vacation, transition, and training are the big three on the pbs hit list and some of you are willing to sell them one of them for a measly 2 hours. What a joke

Sailor

I mostly disagree with lemonade, but no this time.

iPad = work tool no LOAs , just legitimately take care of it, but as a tool they are responsible for it. (And I can care less about the whatever free gigabyte the leave for me, not my iPad)

DL = change to our contract, LOA, I still think, considering their tremendous saving and gains, they should increase the pay per training day, after all I'll be doing this on my days OFF or during my REQUIRED rest in my overnights.

Still a NO for me.