Duckslayer

To me it looks like he separated the 5 little guys into two groups. Jet Blue and Virgin in one, which he says “has been pushed towards the legacy airline type of operations to attract passengers” and Spirit and Allegiant in the other which he identifies as ULCC’s. He then says he is taking Frontier in the ULCC direction. Unless J.B. or virgin were to adopt the ULCC model I can’t see how they would be part of a merger with Frontier. That leaves two choices and one of those is the airline he is using to clone Frontier from. Now add in the bridge contract rumors the fact that both airlines just announced the outsourcing of personal. I’m not saying this is something that I want, but this thing is starting to walk and talk like a duck.

Lobaeux

Good points. The outsourcing could be something, or nothing. I agree with the assessment about JetBlue and Virgin, it's a strange one. The one variable will be an IPO of Frontier. If that goes forward, I think any talk of merger will be moot, UNTIL someone bigger gobbles them up. Frontier just doesn't have the money making machine that Spirit does or the cache and hip factor of Virgin to have a real strong IPO.

JoeyMeatballs

This is completey unrelated but is everyone as outraged as me with Obamas new proposed tax on 529 college savings plans?

I'm losing my mind over here

Lobaeux

LOA on tablets just sent out. Reading it now.

JoeyMeatballs

Looks ok to me

Green Giant

No extra days off for distant learning. So we lose 2 days off. I think it will take more than 2 days for what ever they come up with.

For me a no vote.

ManFlex

This is the main issue I have as well. I have to schedule potentially 18 hours of self study into a month where I will have no additional time off. And I'll be paid 10 hours credit for doing so. I'm leaning heavily towards a no vote.

This EFB implementation is a boon for management as we will more than pay for it in the extra days we will be flying and not sitting in class. I couldn't care less if I continue to carry Jepps and a flight case.

The Juice

Going to be a no vote for me

5 hours of pay for up to 9 hours of daily work. And as someone who has done EFB recurrent before, its a true 9 hours of work on the thing. This isnt surf the internet while a clock ticks town from 9 hours

Explain this to me.....

So currently we get 4 hours of pay to attend a day of training (if on a day off) or the dropped trip amount for the dropped day (4.5 minimum). So we have decided that the net savings for the company for a day of home EFB training, vs classroom training is either 1 hour or a half hour when compared to the proposed 5 hours of pay?

So the savings of hotel, classroom, staff, etc is worth as little as a half hour of pay compared to current book? How about the TONS the company would save with transition drops for training, since this ground school can not be assigned during duty periods, that saves them millions right there.

I can not vote for something that essentially loses money for me while saving a ton for the company.

Airbusdriver1

OMFG! Here we go.... No ipads for another year...

ManFlex

Care to explain your comment?

We are giving the company a huge amount of efficiency and savings and getting next to nothing in return.