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Old 01-16-2015, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by JoeyMeatballs
I actually like going down there. Only bad thing is I tend to "entertain" myself because I'm bored out of my mind then I get home and wife grabs the iPad, starts typing www. And is disgusted with my history , other than that, love Lauderdale

BAHAHAHAHAHA, before go home check list,

toiletries back check stowed
Chargers check stowed
Internet history check cleared
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Most of it for me is the 2-3 time zoned, two leg redeye out of phoenix to get to fll. Miserable
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Old 01-16-2015, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by gonyon
Am I the only one that absolutely detests going to fll whether on a line flight or especially for any sort of training? I refuse to lose any money but not leaving my home has real value to me
I loved training in FLL last time. I would much rather be getting paid 50 hours to drift off in ground school for 3 days, rather than do 2 Spirit unproductive 4 days.

We all know this LOA isnt going to provide the language to get paid 50+ hours for "at home ground school." I like being home but you are still going to have to travel to FLL for a day of drills anyways, and travel back and forth each way. Since I have to go anyways, Ill stay for the entire 5 days, and you will have to pay me, versus 3 days to FLL with travel, for a lot less pay.

And remember 3 days of training will NOT touch 2 4-day trips for paid drops, 4 or 5 days to FLL WILL either touch 2 4-day trips or provide for 7 days consecutive and require a drop.
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Old 01-16-2015, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
I loved training in FLL last time. I would much rather be getting paid 50 hours to drift off in ground school for 3 days, rather than do 2 Spirit unproductive 4 days.



We all know this LOA isnt going to provide the language to get paid 50+ hours for "at home ground school." I like being home but you are still going to have to travel to FLL for a day of drills anyways, and travel back and forth each way. Since I have to go anyways, Ill stay for the entire 5 days, and you will have to pay me, versus 3 days to FLL with travel, for a lot less pay.



And remember 3 days of training will NOT touch 2 4-day trips for paid drops, 4 or 5 days to FLL WILL either touch 2 4-day trips or provide for 7 days consecutive and require a drop.

Well when you put it that way! Unfortunately for me last year it didn't workout that way. This year I have a tone more bidding swagger though
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Old 01-16-2015, 02:38 PM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
"Past performance is not a predictor of future results..."

I never planned on the 2.5 year upgrade, more like 3 or a little longer.

Joke is on those getting hired today and who think it will be 2.5 for them
Do the new guys think a 2.5 year upgrade is coming their way? Is management telling them this?
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Old 01-16-2015, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ManFlex
Do the new guys think a 2.5 year upgrade is coming their way? Is management telling them this?

I bet they are at the job fair.
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Old 01-16-2015, 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ManFlex
Do the new guys think a 2.5 year upgrade is coming their way? Is management telling them this?
I would almost guarantee they are. Baldanza himself brags about the quick upgrade on conference calls with analysts.

What else are they going to say at the job fair, "Come to Spirit, and enjoy lower FO pay from Day 1"
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Old 01-16-2015, 02:46 PM
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From the new hires I talk to yes, still being told 2.5 years. I'm thinking more like 3.0 for guys like me and 3.5-4, maybe longer for the class that starts Monday.
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Old 01-16-2015, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
From the new hires I talk to yes, still being told 2.5 years. I'm thinking more like 3.0 for guys like me and 3.5-4, maybe longer for the class that starts Monday.
That's what the numbers would suggest. The 6 CUG a month currently I think is just because we went so heavy recently, don't think 6 or 8 will remain the norm every month.

But I plan on 3 for me, not a big deal, but hope those trying to get on now realize it may be the 2021 deliveries before they see an upgrade.
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Old 01-16-2015, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
From the new hires I talk to yes, still being told 2.5 years. I'm thinking more like 3.0 for guys like me and 3.5-4, maybe longer for the class that starts Monday.
I hope it happens for them at 2.5 years. We may see additional orders in the interim that could help the cause. Maybe some junior captain or FO attrition as well? Who knows? I came here hoping for a 5 year upgrade but that was before all the orders were announced.
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Old 01-16-2015, 03:08 PM
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Originally Posted by gonyon
I bet they are at the job fair.
RR implied 2.5 years during the March '14 job fair in FLL. When I interviewed in July we were told the same. When I did the math on earning potential prior to deciding to come to Spirit I used 4 years just because I assumed they were all stretching the truth (and why wouldn't they in order to attract talent). However, while in training I met a bunch of CUG's that were 2.3-2.5 on property. So, at least there was some truth to managements claims for some of us. 4-5 works for me but 2.5 would be better.

ps Love this place so far! Can't wait to get off first year pay though. I can hear a loud sucking sound out of my savings account every time I drive by my bank.
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