Originally Posted by SG1159

Whew- caught me there, ROCKSTAR!!!

Go back and count grammar and spelling mistakes if you want to be THAT guy. My ORIGINAL point still stands- you might look into a class, or book, or maybe an online course on "reading for comprehension..." In my INITIAL comment, I AGREED with the sentiment... However, I STILL say that there are a few things that might be better left to something OTHER than a PUBLIC forum...


That's all.

Originally Posted by notahobby7

as i new guy, i welcome everyone's perspective. As far as the maintenance thing, that is inexcusable. The same issue was rampant at my previous employer. On one hand, i had a previous captain leave me a paper note about a bleed valve that failed closed multiple times in flight, no write up. I ended up writing it up of course after arguing with maintenance, and sure enough did the same thing in flight and we diverted. On the flip side, some captains would write up placards at outstations. When there is a potential write up for the aircraft, the previous crew should write it up, unless there is a verbal exchange and agreement between the two captains, very busch league, unprofessional in my opinion. Now, if it is an item that is cosmetic such as cabin trim...

In terms of spirit, the training was great (every single instructor sincerely cared for my success and learning), the airplane is easy (not that i have even come close to mastering it or ever will, and still am and will always be learning), all the crews have been excellent (with the exception of one senior fll captain), the contract has some great caveats, and i strongly believe in the business model.

However, as a 34 year old with this being my only income, who will probably be commuting regardless of where i work, i am having a hard time not looking to at least apply for legacy jobs. It is hard to ignore that i can make much more money without ever having to upgrade. Trip averaging is not so good, we need true trip/duty rigs and premium pay for late-night flying. Also, our retirement can't compare to a 15% contribution at aa for example, that is not a match, but a contribution (i could be mistaken). First year pay, c'mon, this is a career airline right? I fully respect those who went before me here, and am proud to be associated with those who held the line, but because you and i had it substandard, does't justify having those behind us suffer. There are no shortage of applicants now, but it could definitely happen here someday.

I have high hopes for this company, and am proud and fortunate to work here, and am doing my best to improve the brand, but am fearful if i am still here in three years, i'll be a mid-level f.o. Watching us go through a protracted contract battle with no end in sight, as my friends at legacies make twice as much with equivalent schedules.

Yes, let then "don't let the door hit you on the way out", "get the hell out then", "i bet you're a joy to fly with", comments fly.

I just want to make the best career choice and am worried the next contract will take awhile, as we have plenty of senior guys who seem to be content, and management has little incentive to expedite giving their low-paid pilots raises.

Originally Posted by Normann

So it is true? I thought he was screwing with me. I hope it is at least a double wide!

Originally Posted by Normann

I will give you that perhaps talking about the... errrr... mx practices of other pilots... I guess I could have saved that. Than again, may be idiots do not deserve to be saved. They will get the Darwin award eventually.

So how do you fix the problem? What do you do to fix the problem? I am not fighting you but seriously, what do you do? I have sent my share of e-mails, ASAPs, and Safety Reports over the years. Most the time you end up with a retarded reply. After a while you stop sending them.

I hate myself complaining. But what do you want me to do when I walk into another filthy cockpit? What should I say? "Look at this cockpit dude!... It is filthy. Sweet! Yay! Upgrade is 2.5 years!"

IT is a disaster. Should I be happy about that? It has been a disaster ever since I have been here. I can't do basic stuff. E-mails are overflowing all the time. Sweet isn't it? Meanwhile I am doing video conference with my nieces and nephews who are on the other side of the Atlantic. It is the 21st century but we still have a size limit on our e-mail boxes. Google gives you what? 2 gig?

CP does not return calls and he does not reply to e-mails. Is that normal? Same goes for HR, Travel Department, ... you name it.

I show up for my trip and my Jepp update is not in my folder. The only reason I knew there was one because my FO told me. I ask the intern she says they ran out. Last time this happened the FAA gave me a letter of warning. They handed out some 30-40 that morning. I end up arguing with her for 5 minutes and she takes a set out from another pilot's V file. Wow... I guess.... I got to go. So I take it. I do the update and I leave. But WOW.

MX is not really bad. Not at the moment. Planes are not flying with 20 DMIs like they used to. Dealing with MOC is a real problem though, especially when B team's shift is on. Documentation issues are ongoing. Recently we have not even had a major MX related meltdown like the fueling meltdown or the seats meltdown. Were you here for those? Was it fun? Was it something that an intelligent, forward looking, proactive management could have easily avoided? Well... did we avoid those? I guess the fueling issue was being addressed but it was too late. We all had to apologize on every leg for weeks to the passengers. It gets to you.

I dunno bro... I agree it is not fun to fly with someone who is not upbeat. Hard to stay upbeat when you have to spend time questioning the support system that should be in place to help you doing your job.
It is stressful to say the least. Having said that I don't think I am on anyone's no fly. For now...

I ran this one through Word. Hope I get a B- at least.

Originally Posted by TicketP1

The legacy that makes the most sense for me (QOL reasons) is United but this chart makes me nervous about making the jump. I'm planning to stick it out here and see where this next contract takes us.

Originally Posted by TicketP1

The legacy that makes the most sense for me (QOL reasons) is United but this chart makes me nervous about making the jump. I'm planning to stick it out here and see where this next contract takes us.

Originally Posted by SG1159

Not sure who Bill is....

Y'all argue like my high school girlfriends.... No sense paying attention to the original point....

1. I AGREED with some of what the OP said... Most, in fact.

2. I merely said that SOME of what he said MIGHT not be for public consumption....