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Old 09-22-2014, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by A320Flyer
Actually no. ALPA defers the decision to the LEC members. So, the right or wrong decision falls with them. That's why officials that make wrong decisions lose, get voted out, or recalled. Simple as that. The LEC has ignored DFW pilots. And DFW pilots will not forget that. See ya tomorrow in Vegas...(oh, your not a 77 member, my bad).
So why did your leader, Skybolt, waste the time to send that letter to National? Of course if the bylaws were violated they would have gotten involved. You guys are wrong, show some decency and admit it. Instead you choose to concoct a conspiracy to satisfy the 'facts' as you view them. Many of us are educated and can think critically, you guys are out of touch with your electorate and the facts.
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Old 09-22-2014, 11:21 AM
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And if we embraced technology, those of us that are working tomorrow could participate as well.
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Old 09-22-2014, 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by A320Flyer
BINGO! Nicely said Ram! The LEC, including R.P., had ample time to schedule a DFW meeting/vote. They chose not to do so and have consciously elected to keep DFW pilots isolated from the process. They justify their decision as being "compliant with the Bylaws" and believe that DFW pilots should, if coincidently on an off day, travel to LAS if they're interested in participating. But completely ignore another provision of the Bylaws that specifically allow split meetings. What better case would a split meeting apply by allowing THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF MEMBERS TO EXERCISE THEIR RIGHT TO VOTE such as that of 77's? This is the exact reason that provision exists! Nonetheless, the LEC, which includes R.P., REFUSED despite numerous requests by many pilots! This is documented! So R.P.'s "unity" email is BS. Action is worth more than cheap words.
Bottom Line...Everyone affected by an election should be given every opportunity to vote. Anything less is unfair and un-democratic. Those who try to lessen voter participation invite criticism and accusations of bias.
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Old 09-22-2014, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by ManFlex
So why did your leader, Skybolt, waste the time to send that letter to National? Of course if the bylaws were violated they would have gotten involved. You guys are wrong, show some decency and admit it. Many of us are educated and can think critically, you guys are out of touch with your electorate and the facts.
I said this once and will say this again. You truly post things that make you look foolish. Especially when we all know who you are. Pretty embarrassing.
Now, answer two questions since you are so "educated" and in sync with "the facts."

1. Why wouldn't the LEC, including candidate R.P., allow a simple-to-organize meeting to be held in DFW, as allowed by the Bylaws, when many pilots based there (the majority of 77 pilots) would like a chance to vote for whatever candidate they would like to?

2. What is so abhorrently wrong with that constitutionally sanctioned practice?

Tell us...
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Old 09-22-2014, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ALPAshutusdown
Bottom Line...Everyone affected by an election should be given every opportunity to vote. Anything less is unfair and un-democratic. Those who try to lessen voter participation invite criticism and accusations of bias.
Useless to argue. ManFlex doesn't get it, or pretends really hard not to.
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Old 09-22-2014, 05:35 PM
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Aren't we focusing on the wrong individuals. Tony W. is indeed the 077 Chairman. He has the authority to do the right thing didn't he? He is the Captain of this ship.

Why don't you give him a nice round of applause when resigns tomorrow.
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Old 09-22-2014, 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by So Wonwee
And if we embraced technology, those of us that are working tomorrow could participate as well.
I agree with this. How is online voting not possible in this day and age? Also, i dont understand why we cant skype or w/e tech exsists so peeps working or who commute can participate in union meetings.
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Old 09-22-2014, 07:08 PM
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I'm still waiting for spiritmans public apology for airing a fellow pilots dirty laundry on a public site. I'm going to find out eventually so save yourself the trouble.
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Old 09-23-2014, 01:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Dilbert
I agree with this. How is online voting not possible in this day and age? Also, i dont understand why we cant skype or w/e tech exsists so peeps working or who commute can participate in union meetings.
Because ALPA national is stuck in 70s..........their technology as well as their porn Staches
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Old 09-23-2014, 04:30 AM
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R.P. is preaching unity...he is an officer of 77 and one who could make a split meeting happen.
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