Spirit of NKS
09-20-2014, 08:07 AM
#8201
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Oct 2010
Posts: 4,603
If it takes five years from every amendable date to negotiate a new contract why sign 5 year contracts? How about a 3 year length?
Anyone have any reason to believe that things might actually be different this time. Indigo is not pulling the strings this time and it's a much much different negotiating environment. Anyway the strike worked because spirit pilots made shiit shiit money before this contract unless you were at 150% ***** with 2 days off
Anyone have any reason to believe that things might actually be different this time. Indigo is not pulling the strings this time and it's a much much different negotiating environment. Anyway the strike worked because spirit pilots made shiit shiit money before this contract unless you were at 150% ***** with 2 days off
09-20-2014, 09:04 AM
#8202
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: Want(ed) to be an Airline Pilot
Posts: 43
survey says....
Yes. I just checked my spam folder. I hope the MEC sends out a "non-spam" e-mail message alerting pilots about this. Just unbelievable.
Here's the link for it... You need to log in to your ALPA account to access it...
https://www.alpa.org/AlpaLogin/tabid...2fDefault.aspx
Here's the link for it... You need to log in to your ALPA account to access it...
https://www.alpa.org/AlpaLogin/tabid...2fDefault.aspx
I would recommend putting the comments in a word file in case the link times out or your fat fingers accidentally hit the wrong button of each page to continue. (That hurt to retype 1000 characters).
I never got the ALPA survey in my email either. Thanks for the link here whoever posted it initially.
Back to my lurking ways.
09-20-2014, 09:28 AM
#8203
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Position: Want(ed) to be an Airline Pilot
Posts: 43
target fixation
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There is some good sense spoken right there.
I've been lurking a long time, it's contract time now.
It's difficult to make out the good guys from the bad, what with all the chaf aloft. All I know for sure is that I will go to LAS on the 23rd and do my part to stay involved. I am fortunate to have that day off, not so fortunate to live anywhere near LAS, but I'm showing up anyway because it's important.
Let's keep informed, ask questions and speak up when the opportunity presents itself (as in this survey).
Let's keep our eye on the target and not drag each other down with internal strife that benefits no one.
I've been lurking a long time, it's contract time now.
It's difficult to make out the good guys from the bad, what with all the chaf aloft. All I know for sure is that I will go to LAS on the 23rd and do my part to stay involved. I am fortunate to have that day off, not so fortunate to live anywhere near LAS, but I'm showing up anyway because it's important.
Let's keep informed, ask questions and speak up when the opportunity presents itself (as in this survey).
Let's keep our eye on the target and not drag each other down with internal strife that benefits no one.
09-20-2014, 10:13 AM
#8204
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,577
Another person who doesn't know the difference between an MEC Chairman and the MEC (Master Executive Council) Unfrigginbelievable!
I don't know about you, but my read of the ALPA C&BL's says that the MEC (Master Executive Council) makes decisions, the MEC Chairman executes those decisions.
I don't know about you, but my read of the ALPA C&BL's says that the MEC (Master Executive Council) makes decisions, the MEC Chairman executes those decisions.
I am fully aware of the duties and responsibilities of both MEC chair and status reps. Nowhere in the C&BL does it require the MEC chair to mislead the membership. I never said anything about the chair making policy, just being honest about the decisions of the mec. I have never used the acronym MEC in reference to the chair position. Fifth grade English, my friend - Unfrigginbelievable!
09-20-2014, 10:31 AM
#8205
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: A320
Posts: 61
In the case of the 18 reps who lost their position in 2007, there was NO Constitutional provision to leave them in Council 18. "Council Bypass" was not an Constitutional provision, it had to be in the MEC Policy Manual and it wasn't. No attempt was made to amend the MEC Policy Manual to include "Council bypass",.
09-20-2014, 11:41 AM
#8206
Line Holder
Joined APC: Aug 2012
Position: A320
Posts: 90
No it's just the same 3-4 guys bittching about things that happened literally 8 years ago and the arguing about who is recounting the history correctly. It's over! Done! It's 2014 and the big three are making up to 35% more than much of the spirit pilot group counting retirement and delta is seeking even more money at the same time as us which could put is more than 50% behind.
It's embarrassing to read this thread. It's not about what happened in 2006 or 2010 or who is 26% or who is a socialist or who is fighting for power. It's about unity! Now stop acting like a bunch 16 year old girls bad mouthing each other's outfits and start acting like a unified group.
More money, more retirement, more time off, REAL LTD, job protection (SCOPE!). You all can get behind those things right? Now keep your eye on the prise and stop this nonsense. It's toxic.
It's embarrassing to read this thread. It's not about what happened in 2006 or 2010 or who is 26% or who is a socialist or who is fighting for power. It's about unity! Now stop acting like a bunch 16 year old girls bad mouthing each other's outfits and start acting like a unified group.
More money, more retirement, more time off, REAL LTD, job protection (SCOPE!). You all can get behind those things right? Now keep your eye on the prise and stop this nonsense. It's toxic.
09-20-2014, 11:48 AM
#8207
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Posts: 1,466
No it's just the same 3-4 guys bittching about things that happened literally 8 years ago and the arguing about who is recounting the history correctly. It's over! Done! It's 2014 and the big three are making up to 35% more than much of the spirit pilot group counting retirement and delta is seeking even more money at the same time as us which could put is more than 50% behind.
It's embarrassing to read this thread. It's not about what happened in 2006 or 2010 or who is 26% or who is a socialist or who is fighting for power. It's about unity! Now stop acting like a bunch 16 year old girls bad mouthing each other's outfits and start acting like a unified group.
More money, more retirement, more time off, REAL LTD, job protection (SCOPE!). You all can get behind those things right? Now keep your eye on the prise and stop this nonsense. It's toxic.
It's embarrassing to read this thread. It's not about what happened in 2006 or 2010 or who is 26% or who is a socialist or who is fighting for power. It's about unity! Now stop acting like a bunch 16 year old girls bad mouthing each other's outfits and start acting like a unified group.
More money, more retirement, more time off, REAL LTD, job protection (SCOPE!). You all can get behind those things right? Now keep your eye on the prise and stop this nonsense. It's toxic.
09-20-2014, 12:41 PM
#8208
Gets Off to Weekends
Joined APC: Jan 2007
Position: A320 FO
Posts: 649
No it's just the same 3-4 guys bittching about things that happened literally 8 years ago and the arguing about who is recounting the history correctly. It's over! Done! It's 2014 and the big three are making up to 35% more than much of the spirit pilot group counting retirement and delta is seeking even more money at the same time as us which could put is more than 50% behind.
It's embarrassing to read this thread. It's not about what happened in 2006 or 2010 or who is 26% or who is a socialist or who is fighting for power. It's about unity! Now stop acting like a bunch 16 year old girls bad mouthing each other's outfits and start acting like a unified group.
More money, more retirement, more time off, REAL LTD, job protection (SCOPE!). You all can get behind those things right? Now keep your eye on the prise and stop this nonsense. It's toxic.
It's embarrassing to read this thread. It's not about what happened in 2006 or 2010 or who is 26% or who is a socialist or who is fighting for power. It's about unity! Now stop acting like a bunch 16 year old girls bad mouthing each other's outfits and start acting like a unified group.
More money, more retirement, more time off, REAL LTD, job protection (SCOPE!). You all can get behind those things right? Now keep your eye on the prise and stop this nonsense. It's toxic.
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