Spirit of NKS
#8031
Banned
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 501
You have my vote!
#8032
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 758
Not blaming JC so much, he just did what he felt was his job. I am blaming you and Herb and Goldstein for taking his bait. And apparently you still believe JC and yourselves did the right thing. That is scary to me.
The pilot group elected someone else into the ALPA leadership positions when they realized what was going on. You have been campaigning (SpiritBboard and bar meetings...) ever since against the majority of the pilot group and that new leadership.
I am just one pilot, not part of any ALPA strategic campaign. I am just asking questions to try do determine if you are up to same old BS, or if you have learned something over the last 7 years. Right now the it looks like the same old BS.
The pilot group elected someone else into the ALPA leadership positions when they realized what was going on. You have been campaigning (SpiritBboard and bar meetings...) ever since against the majority of the pilot group and that new leadership.
I am just one pilot, not part of any ALPA strategic campaign. I am just asking questions to try do determine if you are up to same old BS, or if you have learned something over the last 7 years. Right now the it looks like the same old BS.
And to think I might have given you credit for actually being willing to have a real discussion.
Your comment about me and Herb and Goldstein shows your lack of grasp of anything of substance from that time period. JC came to town, and the four MEC members took advantage of that change to try and advance the pilots position, seven or eight months before I was anything but the last guy flying MD80's. It wasn't just Herb and Goldstein, it was both DTW Reps and both FLL reps. Reps doing the jobs they were elected to do. MEC Chairmen are not responsible for making policy nor decisions, they are administrators. MEC Chairmen only become dictators when their MEC's set them up to be dictators. You can't have it both ways, the elected reps are responsible no matter how much you want in to be otherwise. And let me remind you this, your DTW local attempted a recall of your FO rep in the fall of 2006 that was unsuccessful. UNSUCCESSFUL! That rep was pivotal in changing the SPA MEC from openly adversarial to Spirit to a working relationship, and he had enough support to withstand a recall.
You may wish for history to be remembered differently from what actually occurred, but wishing so doesn't make it so.
But at least your trying to move the group forward, we got that going for us!
#8033
I just nominated Cole on my ballot. Cole has stuck his neck out more than once to demand that the budget be published, consistent with ALPA By-laws. He's been personally slandered as a result.
He is still willing to stick his neck out for the sake of transparency that we all deserve as a pilot group. This speaks volumes about his character. It's tangible evidence he cares about us as a pilot group and wants the right thing done.
We need representatives that have been here for the ugly days and know what to expect in 2015 from the company and ALPA.
He is still willing to stick his neck out for the sake of transparency that we all deserve as a pilot group. This speaks volumes about his character. It's tangible evidence he cares about us as a pilot group and wants the right thing done.
We need representatives that have been here for the ugly days and know what to expect in 2015 from the company and ALPA.
#8034
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2005
Posts: 758
I don't agree with full name use unless the poster chooses to disclose their identity. I do think the last 3 weeks have seen this issue been beat to death and this thread has degraded into the vocal minority waging a smear campaign against their foes. The amount of useful information being disseminated on this topic has reached the end of the road. I don't think theres anyone in council 77 who still wants to be informed that has not seen a clear "for and against" argument on these topics.
So I guess you're a part of that vocal minority? Or did you forget about calling me a delusional paranoid?
Just kidding!
We will probably get along just fine in real life, why not come over to DFW and join us for some BBQ?
#8035
On Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: Captain
Posts: 13
Yeah, that rep did such a great job when he left office he got a 6 year irrevocable leave of absence, to fly for China Eastern, don't imagine that was fun, where he got to accrue seniority and longevity. A deal I might add not available to any other Spirit Pilot. It was only available to himself and one other REP's and the NC Chairman. Who flew a BJJ in Israel and was sitting at home in FLL while we where walking the picket line. He returned to Spirit a few months after the strike. And as since gone back to American...
#8036
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2009
Position: A320
Posts: 244
My comment earlier was formed through an opinion where I doubt there can be many DFW/LAS pilots left who actually want to be educated and have not chosen a side in the election process. Now, the issues have degraded into personal attacks and possible TOS violations.
Im sure we will enjoy flying together and if we have the chance we can talk about it further over a few cold ones..
#8037
Banned
Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: A-320
Posts: 6,929
Some of you guys are showing some real class............SMH
#8038
Banned
Thread Starter
Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,857
This whole process of upcoming elections, the fight for control of the MEC by controlling LECs and therefore the negotiations committee, and on top of this pile of doodoo our contract. Old wounds, it will get worst.
Sad, but true.
Sad, but true.
#8039
New Hire
Joined APC: Sep 2014
Posts: 6
Good luck Cole,
The document that was posted was a Fed document, not my version of accounts.
Post your exonerations for your DUI, the lack of reporting, and the rejected excuse from the NTSB.
What was posted was a document from the government of your lack of ability to be honest and transparent, when you stated that was a basis of your campaign.
If you are so transparent, post your exonerations of your DUI, youy lack of reporting it, and your rejection from the NTSB for the basis for an untimely appeal.
If not, then admit you were less than candid and truthfull.
http://www.ntsb.gov/alj/O_n_O/docs/aviation/5122.PDF
Here is this link, where is yours.
The document that was posted was a Fed document, not my version of accounts.
Post your exonerations for your DUI, the lack of reporting, and the rejected excuse from the NTSB.
What was posted was a document from the government of your lack of ability to be honest and transparent, when you stated that was a basis of your campaign.
If you are so transparent, post your exonerations of your DUI, youy lack of reporting it, and your rejection from the NTSB for the basis for an untimely appeal.
If not, then admit you were less than candid and truthfull.
http://www.ntsb.gov/alj/O_n_O/docs/aviation/5122.PDF
Here is this link, where is yours.
#8040
Yeah, that rep did such a great job when he left office he got a 6 year irrevocable leave of absence, to fly for China Eastern, don't imagine that was fun, where he got to accrue seniority and longevity. A deal I might add not available to any other Spirit Pilot. It was only available to himself and one other REP's and the NC Chairman. Who flew a BJJ in Israel and was sitting at home in FLL while we where walking the picket line. He returned to Spirit a few months after the strike. And as since gone back to American...
skybolt, keep your eye on the ball. they are trying to distract you. work the election. soon the party will be over for these bums
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