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09-08-2014, 10:37 AM
#7951
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: A320 Left
Posts: 715
No doubt, some pilots would rather be on the "butt kissing to get ahead" plan than be on the union "everyone is equal" plan. But it is also without a doubt that some pilots would rather be on the "I will use the union system to ensure that no one makes more than I do" plan.
I don't know of any Spirit pilot who want's to be non union. The insinuation that those who oppose the current leadership want "NO UNION AT ALL" puts you in as partisan position as those you oppose.
Quite frankly, I'm tired of everyone opposing everyone. That's why we need to elect Bowland and Robinson to Council77 and why we need to elect Aschenbrenner to the interim 77 Capt Rep seat. These guys have a goal and a unified vision; that we all are able to retire at Spirit Airlines after long and fruitful careers.
I don't know of any Spirit pilot who want's to be non union. The insinuation that those who oppose the current leadership want "NO UNION AT ALL" puts you in as partisan position as those you oppose.
Quite frankly, I'm tired of everyone opposing everyone. That's why we need to elect Bowland and Robinson to Council77 and why we need to elect Aschenbrenner to the interim 77 Capt Rep seat. These guys have a goal and a unified vision; that we all are able to retire at Spirit Airlines after long and fruitful careers.
09-08-2014, 01:29 PM
#7953
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Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 501
I believe he has other important matters to attend to until the of the year. And as far as I know, he's been planning to run for the March 2015 term start date for quite a while. Tony's resignation was a last minute thing and Graham expressed a strong willingness to run for Interim. Andy is cool with that, as he'll also be gearing up to speed in the interim and working with Graham for a smooth transition.
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09-08-2014, 02:12 PM
#7954
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jan 2014
Position: A320 Left
Posts: 715
I believe he has other important matters to attend to until the of the year. And as far as I know, he's been planning to run for the March 2015 term start date for quite a while. Tony's resignation was a last minute thing and Graham expressed a strong willingness to run for Interim. Andy is cool with that, as he'll also be gearing up to speed in the interim and working with Graham for a smooth transition.
09-08-2014, 03:02 PM
#7955
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Joined APC: Jan 2006
Position: A-320
Posts: 6,929
I must be a Kool-Aid drinker because the F/As on the SWA flight I just J/S on couldn't understand "why on earth" I would stay at Spirit. Apparently she wasn't around the industry when SWA wasn't so great, lol
09-09-2014, 09:28 AM
#7958
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: Airbus Left
Posts: 130
No doubt, some pilots would rather be on the "butt kissing to get ahead" plan than be on the union "everyone is equal" plan. But it is also without a doubt that some pilots would rather be on the "I will use the union system to ensure that no one makes more than I do" plan.
I don't know of any Spirit pilot who want's to be non union. The insinuation that those who oppose the current leadership want "NO UNION AT ALL" puts you in as partisan position as those you oppose.
Quite frankly, I'm tired of everyone opposing everyone. That's why we need to elect Bowland and Robinson to Council77 and why we need to elect Aschenbrenner to the interim 77 Capt Rep seat. These guys have a goal and a unified vision; that we all are able to retire at Spirit Airlines after long and fruitful careers.
I don't know of any Spirit pilot who want's to be non union. The insinuation that those who oppose the current leadership want "NO UNION AT ALL" puts you in as partisan position as those you oppose.
Quite frankly, I'm tired of everyone opposing everyone. That's why we need to elect Bowland and Robinson to Council77 and why we need to elect Aschenbrenner to the interim 77 Capt Rep seat. These guys have a goal and a unified vision; that we all are able to retire at Spirit Airlines after long and fruitful careers.
Btw, I did not know that Bowland/Robinson was running, haven't seen anything in writing from them. Curious what kind of platform they are running on, what they would do different than their predecessors and/or the other people running.
09-09-2014, 10:13 AM
#7959
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,857
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sailor
That what I mean Juice, but sometimes I wonder if some of my co-workers want a "your own contract dealing" a la JB job. Meaning NO UNION AT ALL.
Because it doesn't matter who or how they run it, they will always be unhappy with it, nothing will ever be good enough.
No doubt, some pilots would rather be on the "butt kissing to get ahead" plan than be on the union "everyone is equal" plan. But it is also without a doubt that some pilots would rather be on the "I will use the union system to ensure that no one makes more than I do" plan.
I don't know of any Spirit pilot who want's to be non union. The insinuation that those who oppose the current leadership want "NO UNION AT ALL" puts you in as partisan position as those you oppose.
Quite frankly, I'm tired of everyone opposing everyone. That's why we need to elect Bowland and Robinson to Council77 and why we need to elect Aschenbrenner to the interim 77 Capt Rep seat. These guys have a goal and a unified vision; that we all are able to retire at Spirit Airlines after long and fruitful careers.
Originally Posted by Sailor
That what I mean Juice, but sometimes I wonder if some of my co-workers want a "your own contract dealing" a la JB job. Meaning NO UNION AT ALL.
Because it doesn't matter who or how they run it, they will always be unhappy with it, nothing will ever be good enough.
No doubt, some pilots would rather be on the "butt kissing to get ahead" plan than be on the union "everyone is equal" plan. But it is also without a doubt that some pilots would rather be on the "I will use the union system to ensure that no one makes more than I do" plan.
I don't know of any Spirit pilot who want's to be non union. The insinuation that those who oppose the current leadership want "NO UNION AT ALL" puts you in as partisan position as those you oppose.
Quite frankly, I'm tired of everyone opposing everyone. That's why we need to elect Bowland and Robinson to Council77 and why we need to elect Aschenbrenner to the interim 77 Capt Rep seat. These guys have a goal and a unified vision; that we all are able to retire at Spirit Airlines after long and fruitful careers.
I don't know about these guys you are talking about, but one of them was very outspoken how evil , crappy and communist ALPA is. So my question was, "want another union?, no union? Or what? " crickets!!! Effing Crickets is what I got.
So, you are wrong, some of the most outspoken against the union would rather have none, as a matter of fact back in 2010-2011 a few mention winds of a spirit pilot union.
All I want is for ALL of us to retire HERE and make tge road for new pilots, NOT supporting our union and only criticizing everything they do isn't gonna help, it doesn't matter who you bring to the party.
09-09-2014, 10:58 AM
#7960
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Joined APC: Nov 2008
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 141
It looks like we will start international flying at IAH next year.
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