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Old 09-04-2014, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by gatorbird
I've got no beef with you personally; I enjoyed flying with you years ago and your sense of humor is second to none. I apologize if this comes across as a personal attack. It's not. But to most line pilots, you ARE a big presence at ALPA National and will always be tied in with what goes on in that arena as long as you participate in it. As well, you've always chosen spoken word over print- maybe you've got a good reason for it- but it often comes across as secretive and withholding; the entire MEC is that way and it leaves a bad taste in the pilot group's collective mouth.

If there's a good explanation, we'd love to hear it.
I'm not a big fan of anonymous boards, and Herb and Rich kicked me off yours long ago. I imagine the MEC prefer the spoken word for the same reasons, but I'm not on the MEC. I fly and testify in arbitrations mostly. As you said in the end of your original post; there really is "nothing to see here".
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Old 09-04-2014, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
So why is deltas contract survey out already and our isn't?
Ours is coming out shortly, FWIW
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Old 09-05-2014, 09:18 AM
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Originally Posted by A320Flyer
Nobody is playing anybody. Socializing at a BBQ venue close to DFW is a voluntary thing. And every evening there are more and more folks showing up, and enjoying a great time. We are independent thinkers, not sheeple. Not blind idiots or "crazy Dallas pilots." Remember, all this recent discussion started because LEC 77 refuses to hold a vote, allowed by the Bylaws, in DFW, where the majority of 77 members are based. Addressing the clear inpractability of many of us flying to LAS is what voters expect their elected representatives to do. Plain and simple. Refusing, dismissing, maneuvering, has only made it worse. Hey, how about giving us our own Council? Then y'all can get rid of us easily....
And here is a guy you need to listen to... +1
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Old 09-05-2014, 09:34 AM
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SpiritPilotBoard.com - By Spirit Line Pilots, For Spirit Line Pilots

This board is ran by Spirit Line Pilots and will be only for Spirit Line Pilots.

Coming this weekend!

In the tradition of the past, it will be an anonymous board with the ability for Spirit Line Pilots to discuss and express their views.

Again, membership will be limited to only Spirit Line Pilots and no management.

So...get ready and grab your flight bag because wheels up is this weekend!
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Old 09-05-2014, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by SpiritPilots
SpiritPilotBoard.com - By Spirit Line Pilots, For Spirit Line Pilots

This board is ran by Spirit Line Pilots and will be only for Spirit Line Pilots.

Coming this weekend!

In the tradition of the past, it will be an anonymous board with the ability for Spirit Line Pilots to discuss and express their views.

Again, membership will be limited to only Spirit Line Pilots and no management.

So...get ready and grab your flight bag because wheels up is this weekend!
Can't wait.... I knew the ALPA attempt to stop free flowing communication would fail.
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Old 09-05-2014, 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by skybolt
So you know me, but I don't know you and you haven't had the balls to call me, so let me ask you here: what are you going to do with that information? Tell everyone that I'm a real bad guy? That's a real upstanding way to win an election against a man who isn't running for anything.
This isn't about personal attacks. We've met and I think you're a nice guy who speaks well and presents his opinion articulately. I just disagree with much of what your previous MEC attempted to do and strongly support our current leadership. I also disagree with the divisiveness being spread to many of our newest pilots. Our current MEC is guilty of poor branding and that vacuum allows this divisiveness to fester. I feel this agitating has more to do with settling old political scores and sour grapes than bettering this pilot group and it's sad new pilots are being brought into it under some other pretenses.
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Old 09-05-2014, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ALPAshutusdown
Can't wait.... I knew the ALPA attempt to stop free flowing communication would fail.
LOL. This is sooo funny. So how many logins per person this time? Are you guys going to let the opposition speak or is it going to be more exclusive than that? You know... to keep the tradition. It is important.

Btw, if you have two user names on APC, you might want to wait and space the posts out just a bit more than 3 mintues you did make me laugh though.
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Old 09-05-2014, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Normann
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Originally Posted by ALPAshutusdown


Can't wait.... I knew the ALPA attempt to stop free flowing communication would fail.




LOL. This is sooo funny. So how many logins per person this time? Are you guys going to let the opposition speak or is it going to be more exclusive than that? You know... to keep the tradition. It is important.

Btw, if you have two user names on APC, you might want to wait and space the posts out just a bit more than 3 mintues you did make me laugh though.

Too funny...
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Old 09-05-2014, 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by ManFlex
This isn't about personal attacks. We've met and I think you're a nice guy who speaks well and presents his opinion articulately. I just disagree with much of what your previous MEC attempted to do and strongly support our current leadership. I also disagree with the divisiveness being spread to many of our newest pilots. Our current MEC is guilty of poor branding and that vacuum allows this divisiveness to fester. I feel this agitating has more to do with settling old political scores and sour grapes than bettering this pilot group and it's sad new pilots are being brought into it under some other pretenses.
Great statement MF!
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Old 09-05-2014, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ALPAshutusdown
And here is a guy you need to listen to... +1
Welcome to the discussion! Great nickname
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