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Frisco FO 07-17-2013 07:55 PM


Originally Posted by Normann (Post 1446403)
Whoever came up with that crap should be shot. I keep hearing two things over and over:

1. Reserve can't pick up OT. Really? People read the contract. 25.2.b.1.

b. Group “B” pilots may be used only if no Group “A” pilot is
available or when less than three hours remain to report time. The
Company will make the electronic general solicitation log in readonly
format, continuously available to the Association. Group “B”
pilots are to be assigned in the following order:

1) Reserve pilots for whom the assignment would schedule them
into a moveable day off but are otherwise within the more
restrictive limits of Section 12 and 25;


So yes. Reserves can work into a day off as long they are scheduled within 3 hours and group A pilots are exhausted and within 2 calendar days, etc... As long those conditions are met, yes they can.

A reserve pilot must be given 72 hours notice of any trip assignment that will cause you to work on a moveable day off.

"Example: A pilot is scheduled for reserve duty on June 1, 2, 3, and 4, followed by moveable days off on June 5, 6, 7, and 8. Scheduling must notify the pilot of the intent to have him on duty on June 5 no later than 0001 on June 2."

Turbinebound 07-17-2013 09:16 PM

[QUOTE=Normann;1446403]Whoever came up with that crap should be shot. I keep hearing two things over and over:

1. Reserve can't pick up OT. Really? People read the contract. 25.2.b.1.QUOTE]

Chill bro, If you read the post, I didn't say you could not accept / request from scheduling / be assigned open time as a reserve pilot. I said you cannot login into flica and PICK UP a trip from open time. So again, its not quite as easy to blow past 100 credit hours for standard reserve folk.

Normann 07-18-2013 03:43 AM


Originally Posted by Frisco FO (Post 1446919)
A reserve pilot must be given 72 hours notice of any trip assignment that will cause you to work on a moveable day off.

"Example: A pilot is scheduled for reserve duty on June 1, 2, 3, and 4, followed by moveable days off on June 5, 6, 7, and 8. Scheduling must notify the pilot of the intent to have him on duty on June 5 no later than 0001 on June 2."

That is an assignment bro. That is not voluntary work on your day off. You gonna do that one you like it or not.

Normann 07-18-2013 04:02 AM

[QUOTE=Turbinebound;1446942]

Originally Posted by Normann (Post 1446403)
Whoever came up with that crap should be shot. I keep hearing two things over and over:

1. Reserve can't pick up OT. Really? People read the contract. 25.2.b.1.QUOTE]

Chill bro, If you read the post, I didn't say you could not accept / request from scheduling / be assigned open time as a reserve pilot. I said you cannot login into flica and PICK UP a trip from open time. So again, its not quite as easy to blow past 100 credit hours for standard reserve folk.

May be you meant that. But you clearly wrote:


Originally Posted by Turbinebound (Post 1446942)
This is not really that easy to do since reserve holders are not allowed to pick up OT...

But I am not lashing out at you in specific. Many people are under the impression that it is illegal to do this and that. I am just sick of listening to morons who are lazy to even read the language.

Dilbert 07-18-2013 05:43 AM

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LineHolder 07-19-2013 12:51 PM

Fueling procedures
 
Not sure what the union email was getting at by saying it is basically not in line with the CBA established duties. Are they advocating we don't have to be on board and should disregard this new rule?

Terrain Inop 07-19-2013 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by LineHolder (Post 1447818)
Not sure what the union email was getting at by saying it is basically not in line with the CBA established duties. Are they advocating we don't have to be on board and should disregard this new rule?

Glad I'm not the only one who really didn't get that email...

Dilbert 07-19-2013 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by LineHolder (Post 1447818)
Not sure what the union email was getting at by saying it is basically not in line with the CBA established duties. Are they advocating we don't have to be on board and should disregard this new rule?

Read 26-8 W in our contract.

Sailor 07-19-2013 04:20 PM

I don't know how 26-8w applies...
I think it talks about the "action of refueling", not monitoring, witch is what these guys want us to do!

But they could also make it part of your preflight/post flight duties, couldn't they?

My question would be, if you arrived, you start deplaning, fueling begins, and new crew waiting to take the AC, can new pilots step in and take over?

BoredwLife 07-19-2013 05:15 PM


Originally Posted by Sailor (Post 1447909)
I don't know how 26-8w applies...
I think it talks about the "action of refueling", not monitoring, witch is what these guys want us to do!

But they could also make it part of your preflight/post flight duties, couldn't they?

My question would be, if you arrived, you start deplaning, fueling begins, and new crew waiting to take the AC, can new pilots step in and take over?

My question is how are you required to stay on board at all new crew there or not?


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