Spirit of NKS
05-27-2013, 12:54 PM
#5821
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: A320 Left
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We are paid to show up :45 before departure, at the crew room, in base, to do our job. If we all did that, there would most certainly be a benefit for the company to get KCM and EFB's. But instead, we are sackless, and allow ourselves to work for free.
We go through security on our own time, rather than on the company's time. Yep - come to work early, check your e-mail, file jepps, check v-files, etc. Rather than depart late, we file the jepps in-flight, even though the MIA FSDO has gone after our pilots for doing that. Rather than depart late, we cut in front of all the paying passengers in the security line, because 45 minutes is not enough time to do everything that we are required to do before the first flight of a trip, let alone to do it and then clear a security line that is backed up around the terminal.
If we started taking delays because of the Jepp revisions and other paperwork we we had to file and review before going through security, we might get EFB's. If we started taking delays because we got held up in security, we might get KCM.
The company has no reason to get EFB's or KCM because we have shown them that there is no need to. Another Jepp revision, another long security line . . . BOHICA!
We go through security on our own time, rather than on the company's time. Yep - come to work early, check your e-mail, file jepps, check v-files, etc. Rather than depart late, we file the jepps in-flight, even though the MIA FSDO has gone after our pilots for doing that. Rather than depart late, we cut in front of all the paying passengers in the security line, because 45 minutes is not enough time to do everything that we are required to do before the first flight of a trip, let alone to do it and then clear a security line that is backed up around the terminal.
If we started taking delays because of the Jepp revisions and other paperwork we we had to file and review before going through security, we might get EFB's. If we started taking delays because we got held up in security, we might get KCM.
The company has no reason to get EFB's or KCM because we have shown them that there is no need to. Another Jepp revision, another long security line . . . BOHICA!
05-27-2013, 12:58 PM
#5822
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Joined APC: Dec 2005
Posts: 8,916
Why can't you do your Jepp revisions at a hotel during a layover? I'm sure it can fit somewhere in between spankin the monkey and getting dinner.
05-27-2013, 02:00 PM
#5825
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Joined APC: Oct 2008
Posts: 1,857
KCM would cost the company 30k per year. It's making $100+ million profit per year. This has nothing to do with profitability and everything to do with deliberately sticking it to the pilot group. This is the ONLY airline that has chosen to use KCM as a bargaining chip. It a shame, and to be honest, it's an embarrassment.
I can't think of one thing to give for KCM....oh, the crappy uniform vendor!
05-27-2013, 03:14 PM
#5827
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Position: Reclined
Posts: 2,168
Congrats, that's the next step!
I thought it improved the efficiency of pilots getting to the plane? I would think Spirit would want to increase efficiency.
Disclaimer: I know nothing of KCM other than its supposed to speed up the process through security, but if its only a benefit to pilots then I can see management not paying for it.
I thought it improved the efficiency of pilots getting to the plane? I would think Spirit would want to increase efficiency.
Disclaimer: I know nothing of KCM other than its supposed to speed up the process through security, but if its only a benefit to pilots then I can see management not paying for it.
because we got KCM maybe it could be a benefit to the company but I still don't see how they make more money shaving 15 min off a show time rather than paying for KCM.As it was said earlier comparing us to Virgin, this company chose to be profitable over passenger comfort and customer service. It also chose to be profitable over employee satisfaction.
05-27-2013, 05:51 PM
#5828
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: Just because the MEL says we can, doesn't mean we should
Posts: 324
05-27-2013, 06:07 PM
#5829
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Joined APC: Jun 2008
Position: More Drag
Posts: 447
If you were to get an LOI from the FSDO, what violation would it reference?
05-27-2013, 07:32 PM
#5830
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Joined APC: Mar 2012
Position: A 320
Posts: 265
9.2.1Navigation Charts
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The Captain shall not begin a flight unless the appropriate Jeppesen aeronautical charts are on board. The Company will provide Jeppesen Enroute and Approach Charts to each Pilot. In addition, flight planning and airport analysis documents are maintained in OCC. Responsibility for Jeppesen Revision.: · If a revision is distributed while a Pilot is flying a sequence, the Pilot is not responsible for that revision until returning at the end of that sequence. · If a revision is distributed at the Pilot’s base before departing on a sequence, the Pilot is responsible to have revised pages inserted and/or removed as instructed on the Manual Transmittal Sheet. The revision number must also be logged on the Record of Revisions in the manual for that sequence. Jeppesens must be revised before referencing your charts on the Flight Deck in preparation for pre-flight activities. · If the revision is not in the Pilot’s V-File, the Pilot should check with the base manager to obtain the current revision.
We need to comply with the FOM, right?
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