Spirit of NKS
03-05-2013, 06:35 AM
#5371
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Going through security, especially at FLL is a PITA, but no way in hell should pilots, through ALPA or individually pay for KCM!!!
The company will see the value and pay for it or not, but we should not give up anything for it!!!
(...although dropping the hat bs would be a reasonable trade in my humble opinion)
The company will see the value and pay for it or not, but we should not give up anything for it!!!
(...although dropping the hat bs would be a reasonable trade in my humble opinion)
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03-05-2013, 07:11 AM
#5372
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I not saying to give up anything for it. Hat trade or not, NK will never make money out of it therefore I doubt we'll ever get it. On the other hand, I think will the amount of money that we pay ALPA, KCM would be a insignificant bill and a significant benefit for its members.
I don't want to get in a fight with pro-against union members, I'm pro-efficient for the pilots union.
I believe our union could trim some of the expenses (ie the monthly magazine, etc) to pay for KCM.
And in MY opinion, if I was given the chance to pay for my own KCM, right now, I WOULD out of my own pocket no question about it. My opinion only.
But I can't expect my company to pay for something that brings zero revenue to them.
I don't want to get in a fight with pro-against union members, I'm pro-efficient for the pilots union.
I believe our union could trim some of the expenses (ie the monthly magazine, etc) to pay for KCM.
And in MY opinion, if I was given the chance to pay for my own KCM, right now, I WOULD out of my own pocket no question about it. My opinion only.
But I can't expect my company to pay for something that brings zero revenue to them.
03-05-2013, 07:28 AM
#5373
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ALPA paying for it is wrong in principle.
Sure the union could reduce spending by cutting the magazine for example, but that's not an opportunity for funding KCM.
Sure the union could reduce spending by cutting the magazine for example, but that's not an opportunity for funding KCM.
03-05-2013, 07:46 AM
#5375
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However, according to the ALPA Chairman email the company WOULD see a gain if he was forthcoming and truthful about the proposal ALPA made to help Spirit out in the form of a legal alliance regarding the company's lawsuit against the DOT. Simple quid-pro-quo. Of course, this assumes ALPA is being completely honest...
03-05-2013, 07:50 AM
#5376
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ra site, LINK. Log in again, Flight Standards and Training link, go to Proficiency Training. Hot Topic Briefing Items been there for months...
03-05-2013, 09:33 AM
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ALPA paying for it is wrong in principle.
Sure the union could reduce spending by cutting the magazine for example, but that's not an opportunity for funding KCM.
Sure the union could reduce spending by cutting the magazine for example, but that's not an opportunity for funding KCM.
03-05-2013, 09:46 AM
#5379
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I don't see how, sorry. If they provide (we provide ourselves) with things like, lawyers, medical support, PACs, meetings, contract negotiations, help repetitively to those who keep screwing up, magazines, credit union, new building, and whatever else) we could easily provide ourselves with KCM. My opinion.
03-05-2013, 10:05 AM
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