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02-11-2013, 04:55 PM
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Rumor is we have a bid in to build a new hanger in DFW. Source is a DFW mechanic
02-14-2013, 07:36 AM
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Any irdea how's the New Spirit World Sim Traning Center is comming along?
02-14-2013, 08:32 AM
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Looks like I'll be one of the last classes to go to Airbus in Miami? (Supposed to hit Sims 1st or 2nd week of April) How are the facilities there?
02-14-2013, 09:56 AM
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Surprise, surprise, UHC coverage is lesser than AETNA, NK breaking another piece of the contract, wag of the finger NK...we are gonna have grievances for eternity, even after NK is long gone!
02-14-2013, 10:13 AM
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Facilities at Airbus in MIA are excellent. Lots of fancy airbus models everywhere, if you're into that, and nice cafeteria, etc. It reminds of of 'JetBlue University' in MCO. Don't forget to bring your passport too.
Airbus MIA has 2 sets of Airbus 320 sims, older ones and newer ones. The new ones (left side of the sim bay, spaceship looking) fly differently than the older ones (right side of the bay. Older being a relative term, they're only 3-4 years old). If I recall, the newer ones are not as sensitive/touchy in pitch, yaw, and roll.
You might also get the Pan Am A-320 sim in MIA. It is one of the older 320's from the Airbus facility, just moved across the street, I believe.
Train like a fancy European at Airbus and train like a Pan Am pilot back in the height of Pan Am in the 70's. The contrast in facilities is interesting to see, especially if you've been to the United Training Center in DEN or 'Delta North's facilities - the 1980's facilities.
I've heard the training sim profile is supposed to be changing some, more emphasis on hand flying - not sure when that gets rolled out. I'm not sure what the point of it is, hand flying a sim is always going to be an adventure.
Airbus MIA has 2 sets of Airbus 320 sims, older ones and newer ones. The new ones (left side of the sim bay, spaceship looking) fly differently than the older ones (right side of the bay. Older being a relative term, they're only 3-4 years old). If I recall, the newer ones are not as sensitive/touchy in pitch, yaw, and roll.
You might also get the Pan Am A-320 sim in MIA. It is one of the older 320's from the Airbus facility, just moved across the street, I believe.
Train like a fancy European at Airbus and train like a Pan Am pilot back in the height of Pan Am in the 70's. The contrast in facilities is interesting to see, especially if you've been to the United Training Center in DEN or 'Delta North's facilities - the 1980's facilities.
I've heard the training sim profile is supposed to be changing some, more emphasis on hand flying - not sure when that gets rolled out. I'm not sure what the point of it is, hand flying a sim is always going to be an adventure.
02-14-2013, 10:18 AM
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Facilities at Airbus in MIA are excellent. Lots of fancy airbus models everywhere, if you're into that, and nice cafeteria, etc. It reminds of of 'JetBlue University' in MCO. Don't forget to bring your passport too.
Airbus MIA has 2 sets of Airbus 320 sims, older ones and newer ones. The new ones (left side of the sim bay, spaceship looking) fly differently than the older ones (right side of the bay. Older being a relative term, they're only 3-4 years old). If I recall, the newer ones are not as sensitive/touchy in pitch, yaw, and roll.
You might also get the Pan Am A-320 sim in MIA. It is one of the older 320's from the Airbus facility, just moved across the street, I believe.
Train like a fancy European at Airbus and train like a Pan Am pilot back in the height of Pan Am in the 70's. The contrast in facilities is interesting to see, especially if you've been to the United Training Center in DEN or 'Delta North's facilities - the 1980's facilities.
I've heard the training sim profile is supposed to be changing some, more emphasis on hand flying - not sure when that gets rolled out. I'm not sure what the point of it is, hand flying a sim is always going to be an adventure.
Airbus MIA has 2 sets of Airbus 320 sims, older ones and newer ones. The new ones (left side of the sim bay, spaceship looking) fly differently than the older ones (right side of the bay. Older being a relative term, they're only 3-4 years old). If I recall, the newer ones are not as sensitive/touchy in pitch, yaw, and roll.
You might also get the Pan Am A-320 sim in MIA. It is one of the older 320's from the Airbus facility, just moved across the street, I believe.
Train like a fancy European at Airbus and train like a Pan Am pilot back in the height of Pan Am in the 70's. The contrast in facilities is interesting to see, especially if you've been to the United Training Center in DEN or 'Delta North's facilities - the 1980's facilities.
I've heard the training sim profile is supposed to be changing some, more emphasis on hand flying - not sure when that gets rolled out. I'm not sure what the point of it is, hand flying a sim is always going to be an adventure.
Is there not an emphasis on hand-flying right now?
I would guess there's not a lot of hand-flyin on the line, eh?
02-14-2013, 10:46 AM
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Facilities at Airbus in MIA are excellent. Lots of fancy airbus models everywhere, if you're into that, and nice cafeteria, etc. It reminds of of 'JetBlue University' in MCO. Don't forget to bring your passport too.
Airbus MIA has 2 sets of Airbus 320 sims, older ones and newer ones. The new ones (left side of the sim bay, spaceship looking) fly differently than the older ones (right side of the bay. Older being a relative term, they're only 3-4 years old). If I recall, the newer ones are not as sensitive/touchy in pitch, yaw, and roll.
You might also get the Pan Am A-320 sim in MIA. It is one of the older 320's from the Airbus facility, just moved across the street, I believe.
Train like a fancy European at Airbus and train like a Pan Am pilot back in the height of Pan Am in the 70's. The contrast in facilities is interesting to see, especially if you've been to the United Training Center in DEN or 'Delta North's facilities - the 1980's facilities.
I've heard the training sim profile is supposed to be changing some, more emphasis on hand flying - not sure when that gets rolled out. I'm not sure what the point of it is, hand flying a sim is always going to be an adventure.
Airbus MIA has 2 sets of Airbus 320 sims, older ones and newer ones. The new ones (left side of the sim bay, spaceship looking) fly differently than the older ones (right side of the bay. Older being a relative term, they're only 3-4 years old). If I recall, the newer ones are not as sensitive/touchy in pitch, yaw, and roll.
You might also get the Pan Am A-320 sim in MIA. It is one of the older 320's from the Airbus facility, just moved across the street, I believe.
Train like a fancy European at Airbus and train like a Pan Am pilot back in the height of Pan Am in the 70's. The contrast in facilities is interesting to see, especially if you've been to the United Training Center in DEN or 'Delta North's facilities - the 1980's facilities.
I've heard the training sim profile is supposed to be changing some, more emphasis on hand flying - not sure when that gets rolled out. I'm not sure what the point of it is, hand flying a sim is always going to be an adventure.
Is there not an emphasis on hand-flying right now?
I would guess there's not a lot of hand-flyin on the line, eh?
02-14-2013, 12:34 PM
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I think it is. Some guys don't appreciate the history and architecture of training centers. To each his own.
I guess 'Sailor' and I disagree.
In the sim, there isn't too much hand flying, currently. While this profile is a bit different (they lose the engine AFTER T/O and AFTER they get the A/P on - we'll get a V1 cut, every time) and their procedures and call outs are slightly different, this is a pretty good representation of how Spirit wants it done in the sim right now.
On the line, some guys hand-fly, but the majority don't above 3K-5k feet. Some are even a bit nervous when the other guy chooses to hand-fly - which makes me nervous, b/c they clearly aren't ever hand-flying themselves. Those that do usually keep the Auto-Thrust on. There's a small subset that try to turn as much off as they can (A/P, F/D, A/T) and just fly the VOR needles or ILS raw data, but that's still somewhat rare - or it is with the guys I fly with, at least. Usually, on a multi-day trip, someone has to 'break the ice' and turn everything off on Day 2 (after proving on Day 1 they don't need to be watched), and then the other guy will often do it on his leg.
We're flying into more busy, high-traffic airports these days, which necessitates keeping the A/P on to look for traffic.
Is there not an emphasis on hand-flying right now?
I would guess there's not a lot of hand-flyin on the line, eh?
I would guess there's not a lot of hand-flyin on the line, eh?
In the sim, there isn't too much hand flying, currently. While this profile is a bit different (they lose the engine AFTER T/O and AFTER they get the A/P on - we'll get a V1 cut, every time) and their procedures and call outs are slightly different, this is a pretty good representation of how Spirit wants it done in the sim right now.
On the line, some guys hand-fly, but the majority don't above 3K-5k feet. Some are even a bit nervous when the other guy chooses to hand-fly - which makes me nervous, b/c they clearly aren't ever hand-flying themselves. Those that do usually keep the Auto-Thrust on. There's a small subset that try to turn as much off as they can (A/P, F/D, A/T) and just fly the VOR needles or ILS raw data, but that's still somewhat rare - or it is with the guys I fly with, at least. Usually, on a multi-day trip, someone has to 'break the ice' and turn everything off on Day 2 (after proving on Day 1 they don't need to be watched), and then the other guy will often do it on his leg.
We're flying into more busy, high-traffic airports these days, which necessitates keeping the A/P on to look for traffic.
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