skybolt

We "let our negotiators do their thing" huh?

Do that, and we WILL lose.

We didn't just take a "let the negotiators do their thing" vote. We took a strike authorization vote. The lack of understanding you show is one of the main reasons I opposed the vote in the first place.( we were NOT taking any unifying actions) We absolutely MUST back up the vote with ACTIONS.

The negotiators have already been doing their thing, it wasn't working if you need a reminder. Now, the SPC better get ramped up post haste. We just told the company that we are ready to strike, if our actions don't say STRIKE, those words will go unheeded.

yawdamp

Brilliant. 97%+ say we are ready.

You and eight others say you're not.

After reading/listening to your views on this forum for the past several months - sounds like you are the one who must prepare.

captscott26

My name is right there....I dont hide behind anonymous screen names. I dont have any need to call you. I didn't start this war, you did. I have no problem with expressing opinions, but you took it to another level. You are attempting to undermine the efforts of the current MEC instead of joining your fellow pilots in our war against the company. Thats right, the war is against the company, not me, not the MEC, the company. We get an awesome result from the strike vote and the first thing you do is come on here and attack me...WT*! If you have issues with how SC is handling this, then take it out on him.....call him! His number is readily available too. I also dont use the no fly list....I am a professional and can act as such. With all of your experience you should know that we are not going on strike tomorrow, if ever. So it is not suprising that we are not prepared to go on strike. I have faith in my union leaders that we will be prepared should the time come. They have done a fantastic job and I am confident they will continue to do so.

Please dont use this forum as a means to advance your own agenda. If you have a bone to pick with the current MEC then I suggest you attend an LEC meeting and voice your opinion, that is the proper place to do so.

A320Flyer

Chill out Gentlemen! Healthy debates please. No need for name calling or defamation around here. We're grown-up professionals and acting like spoiled 12 year-old's will do nothing for our cause.
Go pop a Heineken and relaxxx...

Peace!

BoredwLife

Well said. One of the many reasons I don't sign into the other board.

Both make some valid points. One is that we are not prepared, this is obvious. But you would have to have had your head stuck up a pipe for this history of union negotiations if you think this means a strike will be soon. The main point is it could be more than a year or two before we even get close to a strike. And if it starts to get to that point I believe we will be prepared.

taylorjets

I don’t think it is a wise idea to call someone a D-Bag Scott. You are on your second year, so you should sign up and volunteer. It will go farther than wasting your time on here. O, and by the way, do not call other Spirit pilot names, regardless of their political position or vote. It is not polite and unprofessional. Be well.

skybolt

Sorry dude, me and ALL of my know associates vote for the strike. I also voted for our current contract, what else do you need to know?

OBTW, 97%+ said that they understand the need for unity. I have only spoken to ONE pilot who claims to be "ready".

DWN3GRN

Im Ready, sign in hand. Anyone else with me.

skybolt

No, you hide behind the other four or five Spirit pilots who happen to be named scott

If you think this was "war" you might be surprised if a real war started.

For those who read without anger, my actions are intended to force our leaders to do the job in such a way that we win. If the truth undermines Spirit ALPA's argument, then that argument was weak and would have lost. It is people such as myself that will save you from yourself.

I will let the readers judge who attacked who. I only pointed out that your comment about letting the "negotiators do their thing" was not realistic. I pointed out that we must begin to show group action and unity.


I just love it when people make the point for me. You just told the company that you don't really stand behind your "strike" vote. I know that ALPA can request a release at any time. In fact, they could have requested a release without a strike authorization vote - as they DID last July.

WE JUST PASSED A STRIKE AUTHORIZATION VOTE. Again, you make my point for me.

My agenda is my career. I don't really care about hurting the company, or sending a message, or any of the stuff you think I care about. I'm not running for office, I'm not running a recall, I'm not advocating a recall, I don't have an agenda other than protecting my job.

My rep and our contract administrator know my position. The MEC Chair works for my rep, not the other way around.

Thanks again for making my point that we are not prepared to strike. No thanks for again telling the company that we do not expect to strike. Everytime one of you tries to assure the rest of us that the strike authorization vote doesn't mean that we will strike, you are doing nothing more than undermining the very process that you want to help.

I'm trying to ensure we are prepared and can win, you are trying to defend your friends political positions.

BoredwLife

I have maybe one friend at Spirit.(wasn't there long enough to make any others.)