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Old 06-11-2012, 11:54 AM
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Well, it's a little difficult for me to piece together the whole history here but if Amongero says he will clean up the mess I'm inclined to support him.
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Old 06-11-2012, 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemonade
Well, it's a little difficult for me to piece together the whole history here but if Amongero says he will clean up the mess I'm inclined to support him.
I think most of us would agree with you but actions speak louder than words. So we will see what happens.
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Old 06-11-2012, 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemonade
Well, it's a little difficult for me to piece together the whole history here but if Amongero says he will clean up the mess I'm inclined to support him.
Are you certain a probationary pilot should be insulting the previous MEC?

Another school of thought might be that Spirit pilots owe the previous MEC for giving up countless hours doing obviously thankless work that positioned the airline to hire you.

I'd suggest flying the line, volunteering for some ALPA grunt work, and knock off the flame-baiting.

GO HEAT!
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Old 06-11-2012, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin
Got a voicemail from scheduling at 3am this morning wondering if I was "interested" in LAS to PDX tonight. No mention of JM and I just checked open time and there is nothing in there. There is only one RSV for today, I hope someone didn't get suckered into straight pay.
Your point got side-tracked. You're trying to explain to the new guys that you have to ask for the JM and trip protection.

You will be transferred.

I've used two so far this year (why wouldn't anyone wait until DOS 2 to take vacation and JM's? just my way of thinking) and both required the phrase "it's all about the Benjamins".

Again, I believe your point was hijacked.

Unrelated, what comes from Oklahoma?

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Old 06-11-2012, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Hugh Betcha
Are you certain a probationary pilot should be insulting the previous MEC?

Another school of thought might be that Spirit pilots owe the previous MEC for giving up countless hours doing obviously thankless work that positioned the airline to hire you.

I'd suggest flying the line, volunteering for some ALPA grunt work, and knock off the flame-baiting.

GO HEAT!
Perhaps you are right. It isn't my place to critique work of previous MEC volunteers. I apologize, it wasn't my characterization just popular opinion.

As to doing work that positioned the company to hire me....well all that could mean is a concessionary contract that gave the company money to grow. Is that what you meant? If so, then I hope we do better next time around.

Volunteering? When I am off probation I'll be there.

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Old 06-11-2012, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemonade
As to doing work that positioned the company to hire me....well all that could mean is a concessionary contract...
So if this contract you have worked under for less than a year is so "concessionary", why didn't you hold out for a position at a carrier that would pay you what you are worth?

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Old 06-11-2012, 03:38 PM
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Well, it was explained to me that Amongero is going to enforce every last protection in the CBA. No more Sean and Andy secret deals.
Just how is he going to do that?
MEC chair does not set policy, that's the status rep's job. Chair is simply an administrator, that's why the position is appointed by the MEC, not elected by the members. Without a change in status reps, it is unlikely that policy will change.
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Hugh Betcha
Are you certain a probationary pilot should be insulting the previous MEC?

Another school of thought might be that Spirit pilots owe the previous MEC for giving up countless hours doing obviously thankless work that positioned the airline to hire you.

I'd suggest flying the line, volunteering for some ALPA grunt work, and knock off the flame-baiting.

GO HEAT!
Hear, hear!
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Old 06-11-2012, 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Plane Ramrod
Just how is he going to do that?
MEC chair does not set policy, that's the status rep's job. Chair is simply an administrator, that's why the position is appointed by the MEC, not elected by the members. Without a change in status reps, it is unlikely that policy will change.
Exactly Ramrod! But tell me now. Is that how it works at Spirit? It's not what I'm picking up.
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Old 06-11-2012, 04:06 PM
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Just read over on airliners that a computer problem grounded all flights today for a few hours. I saw the emails from IT but deleted them because they are usually junk. Anyone on the line have more details?
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