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Old 06-11-2012, 07:43 AM
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Why? Because it is disrespectful to a family to be woken up in the middle of the night. If you turn your ringer off then you won't receive a real emergency call. That's why.
Your previous post said you were surprised they could do that here. I have yet to work for an airline that can't call you if you aren't on rest. It's part of this industry and its schedulings job to crew the flights. If you don't like it turn off your phone or try and get it in the next contract........which will never happen. What if that flight was for the morning?

Correct........I'm not new and yes it was I voicemail that I got when I woke up. The point of this was to point out that JM wasn't mentioned, is this something new or have they figured out people will fly for straight pay?
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Old 06-11-2012, 07:53 AM
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So let me understand. You are defending the company's right to cluster bomb the seniority list at 3am hoping someone wants to fly even though they aren't listed as time available?
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Old 06-11-2012, 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Lemonade
So let me understand. You are defending the company's right to cluster bomb the seniority list at 3am hoping someone wants to fly even though they aren't listed as time available?
No, but I understand what it is. This will not change, they have flights to cover. Adapt or get used to being woken up. Are you saying this is the first aviation job you have had where they can call you in the middle of the night?

And cluster they did not......one phone call with a voicemail. We are not the only industry that receives calls even when we are "off" duty.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:06 AM
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Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin
No, but I understand what it is. This will not change, they have flights to cover. Adapt or get used to being woken up. Are you saying this is the first aviation job you have had where they can call you in the middle of the night?

And cluster they did not......one phone call with a voicemail. We are not the only industry that receives calls even when we are "off" duty.
Ok, gotcha guy. But help me interperate Section 12.H.2


The Company will not contact a pilot between 2200 and 0800 unless there is a change in that pilot's schedule that requires a contact during the time between 2200 and 0800. In this case, the pilot may be called 90 minutes prior to the revised report time, or sooner if necessary, provided the call is made so as to minimize the disruption to the pilot's rest.
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Old 06-11-2012, 10:48 AM
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That applies to rest only. Basically, it allows the company to contact you once so they can notify you of a schedule change. It doesn't apply for days off, unless it is rest on a day off before you start a trip.

I'm in the middle of about 12 days off so there is no duty or rest for them to worry about.

The definition of rest in the contract seems to make this even muddier if I'm reading it right so I understand your point but the definition of day off makes sense. If it ever happens to you file a grievance and see what happens.

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Old 06-11-2012, 11:13 AM
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Paragraph H only talks about notification. It is there to prevent harassment after hours,not rest. The company should not be calling anyone during those hours except for the few reasons given as exceptions. They should not have called you. It is a valid grievance.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by dn_wisconsin
If it ever happens to you file a grievance and see what happens.
That made me LOL
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Lemonade
It is a valid grievance.

That made me LOL even harder!
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:29 AM
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Well, it was explained to me that Amongero is going to enforce every last protection in the CBA. No more Sean and Andy secret deals.
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Old 06-11-2012, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Lemonade
Well, it was explained to me that Amongero is going to enforce every last protection in the CBA. No more Sean and Andy secret deals.
Sounds like Obama 4 years ago...
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