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Old 08-24-2011, 06:57 PM
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Can't wait to see the 65 stickers now
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Old 08-25-2011, 09:19 AM
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Hmm, awful quiet....
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Old 08-25-2011, 10:13 AM
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Hmm, awful quiet....
So anyone at the meeting hear wether or not we are gonna have a western crew base?

Also someone told me frank said spirit is running classes of 6 every 2 weeks from now until the end of the year. Sounds like we are getting a couple of planes..
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Old 08-25-2011, 11:22 AM
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There is supposed to be a class on Monday. Anyone heard if its going to happen?
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Old 08-25-2011, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Dilbert
So anyone at the meeting hear wether or not we are gonna have a western crew base?

Also someone told me frank said spirit is running classes of 6 every 2 weeks from now until the end of the year. Sounds like we are getting a couple of planes..
This isn't new. An email came out a few months ago from Joe talking about all of this. It isn't just until the end of the year it is supposed to be indefinate as long as we take the planes. Plus an average of 8 upgrades a month.
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Old 08-25-2011, 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by shiftwork
Can't wait to see the 65 stickers now

LOL. Someone on the other forum said-

"Well, the bright side is that we made them see its not 26%, the crowd is getter bigger and louder."

And another said-

"The 40%er Cartel". We're here...and we're getting larger every bid period"


Assuming that all of the no's voted, (and why wouldn't they all have voted if they were trying to change things), 65 votes out of 348 pilots (in FLL) is only 18.7%. Seems to me they don't have as much support as they thought. My bigger concern is apparently we have 50% that is apathetic to the whole thing. Like Skybolt says, get out and get involved!
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Old 08-25-2011, 07:05 PM
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SOS. Should I try to come back?
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Old 08-25-2011, 08:59 PM
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I am not concerned about the participation. This was a vote, about weather we should have a vote. Was this the second or third recall attempt on Frank? I guess we could say the third including the election. Back then the 26ers had momentum. Most of us were unhappy with how things went down during and after the strike. There were things to complain about. Back then the major sections of the CBA were not tested and complied with. Lot has changed since.

As it turns out the contract has actually been working well for the majority. QOL guys still have their time at home, and more than before. OT guys are still making good money and most OT guys realized that making 250h credit a month was never a long term reality. The company has also chosen to comply with the CBA more often than not. At the moment there is no desire for change.

Finally, and I think this had a key role once again, most of us think it was wrong trying to remove an honest person from his position to rearrange the balance in voting to pursue a relatively narrow agenda. Even the opposition was not willing to openly question Frank's integrity.

Still some good things may come out of this effort. In the past year the leadership has accepted that a significant amount of guys are interested in working extra and it is not just a handful of pilots. Even if it is 5% or 26% their voice needs to be heard. May be we will see changes on the communication front as well. Time will tell. I am happy this one is over.
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Old 08-26-2011, 04:27 AM
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Still some good things may come out of this effort. In the past year the leadership has accepted that a significant amount of guys are interested in working extra and it is not just a handful of pilots. Even if it is 5% or 26% their voice needs to be heard. May be we will see changes on the communication front as well. Time will tell. I am happy this one is over.

True. Well said.
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Old 08-26-2011, 05:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Left Handed
LOL. Someone on the other forum said-

"Well, the bright side is that we made them see its not 26%, the crowd is getter bigger and louder."

And another said-

"The 40%er Cartel". We're here...and we're getting larger every bid period"


Assuming that all of the no's voted, (and why wouldn't they all have voted if they were trying to change things), 65 votes out of 348 pilots (in FLL) is only 18.7%. Seems to me they don't have as much support as they thought. My bigger concern is apparently we have 50% that is apathetic to the whole thing. Like Skybolt says, get out and get involved!
Guess they aren't that good at math either.
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