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Old 08-12-2011, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by WALDOPEPPER
After all we are on the same boat.
Same boat? Heck, my guess is same seniority list. You had us going for a bit there, Carlos.

Exactly what is it you plan to prove here? Why are you lurking on internet forums, only to call out other ALPA volunteers/reps for posting on them? I actually told the webmaster on the spiritboard to lose my login info a couple of years ago; you didn't- you showed your hand.

My friend you attempt to belittle and insult on a regular basis has too much dignity and composure to call you out publicly; he's the bigger man. Me? Nah, not so much.

Why do you still hold a position that you no longer even represent? Why aren't you based in on of the bases you represent (even though you can hold one of them)? Most of all, why are you not interested in hearing the pilots' voices? Is ridicule just easier?

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Old 08-13-2011, 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by gatorbird
Same boat? Heck, my guess is same seniority list. You had us going for a bit there, Carlos.

Exactly what is it you plan to prove here? Why are you lurking on internet forums, only to call out other ALPA volunteers/reps for posting on them? I actually told the webmaster on the spiritboard to lose my login info a couple of years ago; you didn't- you showed your hand.

My friend you attempt to belittle and insult on a regular basis has too much dignity and composure to call you out publicly; he's the bigger man. Me? Nah, not so much.

Why do you still hold a position that you no longer even represent? Why aren't you based in on of the bases you represent (even though you can hold one of them)? Most of all, why are you not interested in hearing the pilots' voices? Is ridicule just easier?

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Waldo is Carlos? Man I hope you are wrong. I've never had a cross word with Carlos. In fact, I thought I worked well with him after he took prozaks place in DTW and have defended him since. I would never have guessed this ......

You must be thinking about another Carlos , but I can't think of one. PM me plz if I'm wrong.
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Old 08-13-2011, 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by WALDOPEPPER
SPIRIT PILOTS--Is this a fair evaluation of your contract? Is this another one of your union busting pilots?
It seriously hurts me to do this, but I'm going to have to paraphrase Hillary Clinton here.

Since when did it become union busting to disagree with this administration?

Some of us want our union to function like the union groups at places where our friends work.

Places like AirTran, Southwest, United, and Delta. Places where the Committees actually accomplish things and inform us about it. Places where the reps comm with their constituents. Places where the union fights for things like OT pay for OT work. Places where the union is accessible to the members. (I had a FO recently complete his probationary year and couldn't contact anyone at the local level to begin his dues check off) Places where the website is actually somewhat up to date regarding committee members and contact numbers. I could go on, but it's Sat morning and I've got other things to do.
Places where the union partners with the company (SWA) in a professional manner (trust but verify) and we all benefit. Places where the union supports pilots and leads them to proper actions vs control by public embarrassment. (note to outsiders - one of our scheduling volunteers accidentally sent a letter out in which he called for one of our more well paid Captains to be "tarred and feathered")
We want our pilot association to function as a "mutual protection society", and to uphold the ALPA Code of Ethics.

And I personally want a far better educated and engaged pilot group. It bears repeating that I would rather have an engaged group that shows up at meetings and gets things done vs a group that changes elected reps like super models change shoes. We CAN do better.
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Old 08-13-2011, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by WALDOPEPPER
SPIRIT PILOTS--Is this a fair evaluation of your contract? Is this another one of your union busting pilots?
You went back over a year for that post, but why? I'd say that most of that post has been proven correct in the past year since implementation of the new CBA. Also, I don't get the "union busting" part. I disagree with the current administration, and I give specifics why I disagree.

Neither of these definitions apply to me.
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noun 1. any of a group of persons hired by a company to disperse picketers, end a strike or job action, etc., especially by violence or intimidation.

2. any person or group that tries to destroy or weaken a union, as through prosecution or intimidation: The district attorney has a reputation as a union buster.
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Old 08-14-2011, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by gatorbird
Same boat? Heck, my guess is same seniority list. You had us going for a bit there, Carlos.

Exactly what is it you plan to prove here? Why are you lurking on internet forums, only to call out other ALPA volunteers/reps for posting on them? I actually told the webmaster on the spiritboard to lose my login info a couple of years ago; you didn't- you showed your hand.

My friend you attempt to belittle and insult on a regular basis has too much dignity and composure to call you out publicly; he's the bigger man. Me? Nah, not so much.

Why do you still hold a position that you no longer even represent? Why aren't you based in on of the bases you represent (even though you can hold one of them)? Most of all, why are you not interested in hearing the pilots' voices? Is ridicule just easier?

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Carlos? No, I don’t know Carlos and I don’t know who you are. You have so many questions. Why don’t you ask Carlos!
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Old 08-14-2011, 10:14 AM
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Dang.... I was thinking it was going to be Carlos and Tim thing all over again????
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Old 08-14-2011, 11:24 AM
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You should probably make sure it's him before you attempt to out him, did you call him?

Originally Posted by gatorbird
Same boat? Heck, my guess is same seniority list. You had us going for a bit there, Carlos.

Exactly what is it you plan to prove here? Why are you lurking on internet forums, only to call out other ALPA volunteers/reps for posting on them? I actually told the webmaster on the spiritboard to lose my login info a couple of years ago; you didn't- you showed your hand.

My friend you attempt to belittle and insult on a regular basis has too much dignity and composure to call you out publicly; he's the bigger man. Me? Nah, not so much.

Why do you still hold a position that you no longer even represent? Why aren't you based in on of the bases you represent (even though you can hold one of them)? Most of all, why are you not interested in hearing the pilots' voices? Is ridicule just easier?

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Old 08-14-2011, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Stoutbrewer
You should probably make sure it's him before you attempt to out him, did you call him?
I've got no desire to call him; he didn't do me the service of a phone call either. Regardless if "Waldo" is him or not, he's guilty of all the charges I've made. He'll read it.

Hey Waldo, why do you feel so threatened?
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Old 08-14-2011, 03:02 PM
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I've got no desire to call him; he didn't do me the service of a phone call either. Regardless if "Waldo" is him or not, he's guilty of all the charges I've made. He'll read it.

Hey Waldo, why do you feel so threatened?
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Old 08-15-2011, 04:09 AM
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So what r u guys making of the G unit email?! How about VB's 'flight loss pay'? More than my W-2 for the last 10 yr.....
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